Yes, changed stems: Soma Portola with 6cm extension Technomic Nitto Labarross with 10cm extension Technomic
Both were raised pretty high but the Albatross is nearly the the minimum insertion line (1cm shy) while the Portola was about 4cm shy of min insertion line.
I’m a heavy guy with long torso and short legs, brooks B17 saddle almost as far back as it will go on a S83 setback seatpost.
The Albatross bar setup is the same stem/bar setup I used on my Cheviot. With the inner bar ends I get tons of added forward reach to pull on or lean into, if I didn’t have those I’d probably want at least 11cm of stem extension though. Any less than 10cm extension and I’d worry about knee strikes on the ends of the albatross bars when they’re this low. And I wouldn’t use bar end shifters with the current setup for the Sam reason.
My next move is to try swapping the Nexus rd for an XT rapid rise rd with a 13t lower pulley wheel (replacing the 11t original). The Nexus doesn’t take kindly to heavy pedaling pressure uphill in a low gear, it starts to skip. This is probably because I’ve got it way past the max gear size and chain wrap capacities (46/30t crankset, 11-40t cassette). If I was less heavy I suspect it wouldn’t be a problem, but I’m hoping the wider wrap/capacity of the XT rd will eliminate this issue.
In the “hoods” (pulling on the inner bar ends) the Charlie is a rocket that pulls my weight off the seat to pedal harder and faster like in the drops or hoods. On the hand grips I’m in “sit up and beg” mode - very tall to see well in traffic and nice for standing up as I pedal uphills, but relaxed enough to putter around town for as long as I could want. The long arm (e.g., normal) v-brakes are just perfect and so strong I can’t imagine ever wishing for disc brakes. What a fun and versatile bike! These should sell out every time, it’s the best Riv I’ve been on (which includes: Cheviot, Sam Hillborne, Saluki, Homer, Gus, Suzie, Rosco Baby). Fast like Homer, strong and versatile like Sam, better braking than any other, swoopy goodness.
Abe On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:51 PM, maxcr <max.faingezi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Abe, I forgot to ask, did you change the stem length going from the Soma Portola to the Albatross? Max On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
I also recently installed Albatross bars (not upside down) on my Charlie, but I think I need to tweak them. I haven't installed my grips yet, but after a quick 20m ride my hands/wrists made it clear that the angle wasn't working.
Here is a photo of the process, I'll post the new setup once I have the grips finalized.
I do like the Paul levers / Paul v-brake combo, brakes feel better than the cane creek ones I had on the noodles.
Abe, would you mind posting a side photo of your CHG?
Max, always tinkering in Boston
On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 6:01:32 PM UTC-5 Scott wrote:
Excellent...thanks for the report, Abe!
Schwable G-One Allround 700x50. Fits nicely, great for gravel and chunky pavement; very good on smooth pavement. Slight noise on pavement but only compared to Snoqualmie Pass (700x44mm) tire smoothness. I’d love to try Hatcher Pass (700x48mm smooth) next but thes G-One Allrounds are super (and cheaper by a small bit vs. Rene Herse tires).
I’m running them with tubes that have some Stan’s sealant inside - never a flat but currently a slow leak that probably resolved with the sealant since my lunch time ride.
Abe
What tires are those, Abe?
<C4176DC6-AD02-4CDD-9BC2-C9C4BC167FFC.jpeg> <A3B1A5B2-3946-48CF-8155-370280D0D8AD.jpeg> I put albatross bars on my Charlie, mounted them upside down and raise the stem way high. This gives me a better grip towards the front of the curves of the bar, but I also put some bar ends at the most forward point, so they give a on the hoods type of position as well. very nice for pulling on and leading down into the wind. Open to suggestions on where to mount the shifters, they feel pretty good mounted towards the center. I’m really enjoying the bar is mounted upside down, it’s just a more comfortable way to hold in the curves. I am on a Nitto Technomic, 10 cm extension stem, this leaves the hand grips about level with the saddle at the maximum insertion point.
V- brakes! Switching to the albatross bars, with cheap, avid levers, and nice DRX brake arms improoves the braking dramatically. It’s really night and day compared to calipers or the short arm v-brakes I was using before. The stopping power both better modulated and much stronger. But the weird, unnecessarily, strong mechanical advantage of a short arm (85mm) V- brakes is gone. Long arm v-brakes are the only way to go.
I’m sure I’ll shift the cockpit around but so far super happy with the change (from Soma Portola drop bars and TRP RRL brake levers with lite pro short arm v brakes).
Abe
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