John:
How about using your 9 speed cassette as an 8 speed by adjusting out lowest or 
highest gear with a limit screw, assuming you can so without one of those gears?

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  On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 2:00 PM, Ted Durant<[email protected]> wrote:   On 
Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:36:34 PM UTC-6 John Hawrylak wrote:

Did you measure the RD ratio's or are they a published value somewhere??
I have seen some published, but my memory is that I measured them from the 
total distance between cogs and the total amount of cable pulled. 
 Do you happen to know the ratio for a Shimano Deore M-591-SGS??  I have this 
with a Shimano 9sp road cassette (4.34mm cog spacing).   
Classic Shimano 6-7-8-9 (and 10 Road) derailers are 1.72. 
The RD ratio would have to greater than 1.39 for the SunTour barcon 25mm travel 
to shift the 8 cog spacings on the 9 speed cassette   (8 * 4.34)/25 = 1.39
Well, I have Shimano 9 at 4.35, not 4.34, but otherwise I concur :-) My 
spreadsheet says you need 20.2mm of cable pull to shift a Shimano 9-sp derailer 
across a Shimano 9-sp cog set, so BarCons should have plenty of capacity. Just 
don't try to put a SRAM road derailer on that setup - you'll be a couple mm 
short.  
Newer derailers are using lower actuation ratios so that more cable pull is 
required for each shift, so that there is more room for error. So, any derailer 
that pre-dates the 11-speed era, other than SRAM "Exact Actuation" will 
probably be a good match with BarCons.
Ted DurantMilwaukee, WI USA 

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