Hello,

I contacted the seller. This bike was put on my radar by a friend who is 
looking to make his Rivendell dream come true.

The conversation with the seller was kind of weird in my opinion. 

Here's how it went:


*Me*:Hey, was the frame in an accident?

**he replies immediately**

*Him: *That’s an interesting first question. Yes, but what prompted you to 
ask that?

*Me:* There's a thread about your post on the rivendell forum. It's my 
opinion that you should let folks know straight up on the ad. Especially 
for the price you're asking.


*I stepped away from the computer until now and he sent me the following 
two messages.*

*Him: *Sure, sounds good. Curious what someone posted. Thx

*Him: *Hi Jon, ok just updated my listing as I agree is totally appropriate 
and just informed two very interested buyers. I was going to talk about it 
in person but you’re right it’s really better to put in the listing. It’s 
hard to tell the seat stay was ever bent. I am very curious what someone 
posted in the forum and how fair and/or factual what they said is. Is there 
any way you can forward me the significant part of that thread? I’d really 
appreciate it. Thx John


The above is an unedited transcription of our exchange, and It's 
interesting to come back to his messages, his ad update (which I didn't 
read), and then his post deletion. Weird. 

I'm glad my friend didn't end up getting the bike from him. 


On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 4:38:55 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Someone must have contacted the seller. The ad has been updated:
>
> "This bike is overall in great shape with just a few nicks and scratches 
> but please note that during transport the rear steel seat stay was bent, 
> but a very reputable local frame builder realigned/bent it back and fixed 
> it."
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "A few nicks and scratches from transport and storage.."
>
> Well that's one way to put it! 
>
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 12:18:45 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Here are some more photos. I couldn't get the fork to lie flat but I 
>> tried to capture the bent ends.
>>
>> With regards to, "how do you know it's the same bike?" Well, I owned it. 
>> I know it the same way you know your own bike. I recognized it from the 
>> original ad photos from when I bought it, and from when I unpacked it, and 
>> from the build components, and from the touch-up paint on the fork, and the 
>> chainstay wrap, and from the month I stared at it behind my desk while I 
>> waited for BikeFlights to process my claim, and from the seller's 
>> confirmation he obtained the bike from the non-profit to which I sent it.
>>
>> [image: rear_dropout_3671.jpg][image: rear_full_3617.jpg][image: 
>> rear_triangle_3605.jpg][image: rear_triangle_3636.jpg][image: 
>> rear_triangle_3676.jpg][image: fork_3612.jpg][image: rear_full_3607.jpg]
>>
>> Photo from the original ad when I bought the bike, and the recent CL ad. 
>> Note the touchup paint on the fork.
>>
>> [image: image7.jpeg][image: 00000_ldynISdBmBPz_0CI0t2_1200x900.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>  
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