Shimano Deores are only 4mm (1/6") longer than Paul Motolites. If you want 
something longer:

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Laing

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Paul brings up an excellent point. If you plan on running the max tire 
> size on your Gus, just make sure the brake you use will clear it. I had 
> already purchased MotoLites for mine before even considering a tire size. 
> Ended up going with 2.5” Ehlines, which turned out to clear the brakes by 
> maybe 1cm. I doubt I’d feel comfortable with any less clearance just due to 
> the chances of picking up mud and rocks and sticks on chunky treads. Of 
> course, this says more about the limitations of certain brakes than it does 
> tires. With the right brake choice, you should be able to run the 2.8s no 
> problem… just keep it in mind.
>
> On Dec 13, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Paul Clifton <paulgc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Richard,
> I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I don't 
> think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost certainly 
> won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to clear the 
> 2.8" G-ones.
>
> So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to worry about the rim 
> width being a limiting factor.
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:02:21 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail Ehline 
>> 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true “plus” 
>> bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with success. Not 
>> sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim brake rims.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?
>>
>> I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 
>> to begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within 
>> Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of 
>> "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. 
>> It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.
>>
>> I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have 
>> you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't 
>> hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...
>>
>> Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Scott in about to get very cold Montana
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 08:29:36 AM MST, Richard Rose <
>> rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
>> Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? 
>> I have not found one. 
>>
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