My feelings, exactly. I put Rene Herse braze-on centerpull brakes, a Rene 
Herse crank and Curtis Odom hubs on my Rivendell Custom. I would have put a 
Nivex on it also, had it been available. I would still be way under the 
price of top of the line modern electronic CF road bike. Rene Herse did a 
series of custom steel bikes (and carbon fiber) and they sold out like 2021 
Rivendells. Aren't new Dura-Ace rear derailleurs $650+? And they aren't 
even desmodromic.
I can afford the finest bike (my standards) in the world, but I drive a 
manual transmission Honda Fit EX HFP.

Laing

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 2:07:14 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Readers of this list who also enjoy film cameras will see some parallels 
> between this derailleur and the newly released Leica M6 (or older cameras 
> like the Leica M3, which dates back to 1954 and is still widely sought 
> after and used). Yes, there are innumerable modern cameras that have 
> automated features that were only dreamt of back in the day, but camera 
> lovers (I am one) often appreciate the look and feel of a classic, fully 
> mechanical piece of equipment. Even old lenses are nowadays revered for the 
> classic way they render images, even if on paper they’re less sharp and 
> exact than modern ones.
>
> The new Nivex is like that. It’s not indexed, or carbon fiber, or 
> electronic, and it won’t even fit on 99.9% of the bikes out there. But it 
> harkens back to the golden age of handbuilt bicycles and allows one to 
> re-live that era, if only in a small way. Operating the push/pull lever on 
> the Nivex is like pressing the shutter on a classic mechanical camera and 
> hearing the intricate machinery inside turn that action into a very 
> satisfying shutter movement. If you don’t understand why that’s important, 
> you shouldn’t buy an old camera … or a Nivex.
>
> Just like Leica will likely sell every single new M6 that they can make 
> (even at $6,000 each), I’m sure (as has been reported here on this list 
> already) that Rene Herse will sell every one of the new Nivexes.
>
> If I was getting a new custom bike made, I would consider one. 
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Laing pointed out that the shift levers are sold out.
>
> So is the derailer itself!  At least this morning (December 13, 2022) it 
> is.  
>
> This is never going to be a high volume part.  Plan your next $15000 
> custom bike around it, or gaze from a distance...
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:49:39 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>
>> Except that the shift levers are sold out!
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 12:25:16 PM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty cool - but another $250 for the shift lever.  Still great to see 
>>> components like this being made!
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:57:26 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, 
>>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Nivex is on the market now, and I really like the look of it. Even 
>>>> at $729.00 it feels like money well spent if you want something a little 
>>>> different and appreciate all that goes into making something like this. 
>>>> KUDOs to Jan for sticking with it. 
>>>> Nivex Rear 
>>>> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/derailleurs/nivex-rear-derailleur/>
>>>> [image: Oregon-Outback-RH_Nivex-600x387.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>> For a custom Rivendell, it might make for a very sweet build. If my 
>>>> ship comes in I'd be tempted to spring for one, but I'll hold out until I 
>>>> see the new Riv rear derailer. 
>>>>
>>>> Marty
>>>>
>>>
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