On my Quickbeam, the only Paul braking bits I've got are green Moon Units. I have used the Neo-Retro / Touring setup on another bike, and switched to Minimotos due to brake judder. I've never had judder on my Quickbeam. As Mark said, regular road levers work with both minimotos and cantis.
I love minimotos. They stop great. They look a little funny, since they aren't symmetrical. Setup was easy. I think you could flip some washers around to get the noodle side of the brake not to knock the fender. A Minimoto in front seems like the opposite strategy from a Neo-retro in front. Paul Tourings are stronger brakes than Neo-retros, and Minimotos are stronger yet. I doubt in practice you'd notice. Philip Sonoma County, Calif On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 3:43:07 PM UTC-8 JohnS wrote: > Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences with Paul brakes. I do like > the way the brake cable connects to the minimotos, same as a v-brake, no > cable hanger required. I'm planning to have a small front rack. I'll have > to make sure the rack tang doesn't interfere with the brake cable as it > connects across to brake arm. Looks like it wasn't an issue for Patch on > his QB, just above the fender and below the rack tang. > > JohnS > > On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 12:10:26 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote: > >> another vote for the touring Canti rear/ Neo retro front set up, though >> one caveat, i recently swapped out front racks, and the new one has a fork >> tang thats a little higher, requiring a very long straddle cable, braking >> has been fine but in my mind feels a little less stopping power. >> >> On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 11:20:36 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote: >> >>> John - I like the combination very much, but I don't think it is >>> significantly *better* than other brake set-ups, and do not necessarily >>> champion this set-up over others. I went this route because (a) I, too, >>> felt bad leaving the QB brake stop bridge hanging out all alone, and (b) >>> had another bike that was in need of only one Minimoto (a 92 XO1 calipered >>> frame with a 93 XO1 canti'd fork) and after a parts shuffle across 3 >>> (mostly) canti'd bikes, I ended up with one spare Minimoto. >>> >>> I'll say that the Minimotos and Motolites have a sharper, crisper, more >>> abrupt stopping action than the Touring and/or Neo Retros. That is not to >>> say that the latter pair are 'bad' at stopping - they're marvelous and >>> strong - but the transition feel is slower/smoother. When running a combo >>> of Minimoto front + Touring rear, the difference in brake feel is not funny >>> or weird or all that noticeable. I suppose there's slightly less wheel lock >>> with the Touring out back, but this isn't a dominant factor for me. >>> >>> I personally would recommend the Touring/Neo Retro for road riding; and >>> Minimotos for more off-road/trail action, and/or/especially in cases where >>> quick-hard-steep stopping is desired. I save my Motolites for my 26" >>> dedicated trail bike. >>> >>> Last item - aesthetically speaking (YMMV, don't @ me!) >>> Minimotos look sick with knobbies >>> Touring/Neo Retro look sick with knobbies >>> Touring/Neo Retro look sick with slicks >>> Minimotos look just ok with slicks, but sick with 45mm fenders + slicks >>> >>> Everyone's got different brake feelings and experiences, these are mine, >>> hope they help. >>> >>> Patch in NYC >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:50:15 PM UTC-8 JohnS wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you everyone for the tips/advice. I'm not planning to have a rear >>>> rack on this bike, so the brake arm extension isn't an issue. Also I may >>>> or >>>> may not mount the fenders that I have, my Crust LB-canti has them so not a >>>> priority to have them on the QB. >>>> >>>> Patch, so how do you like the touring/minimoto combination? Would say >>>> it was better or as good as other brake set ups? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> JohnS >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 2:56:39 PM UTC-5 Patch T wrote: >>>> >>>>> I use Paul's Touring on the rear and Minimotos on the front on my QB. >>>>> The Minimotos clear a VO Smooth 45mm fender just fine. >>>>> I agree that not using the canti stop bridge on the rear is a little >>>>> sad, but one could get creative and mount a light there if you preferred >>>>> to >>>>> run a Minimoto on the rear as well. >>>>> >>>>> Patch in NYC >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7b9bd958-0154-441d-b6a8-ad4ad078d508n%40googlegroups.com.
