| I like SKS fenders just fine — they’re easy to install/modify, resilient to incidental contacts, and quiet while underway. They don’t have the sex appeal of something like hammered Honjos, but from a purely functional standpoint they seem more or less unimprovable. Unless I’m missing something?
Jay Lonner Bellingham, WA Sent from my Atari 400 On Jan 18, 2023, at 9:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Jay,
Thanks for pointing out differences in materials fenders are made of. I'm a fenders virgin, so it's insightful! Definitely a characteristic I'll weigh heavily when I purchase a set.
As a long-time user of SKS fenders, do you have any gripes with them?
Scott
On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 10:27:34 AM MST, Jay Lonner <jay.lon...@gmail.com> wrote:
I’ve been using SKS fenders since forever, so I’m very familiar with their installation and have lots of spare parts lying around. Are there non-aesthetic benefits to metal fenders? I think back to the old Raleigh 3-speed I had as a kid, and the fenders on that bike were prone to scratches/dings and also made a loud pachinko sound when riding on gravel. Have modern boutique metal fenders found a way around these shortcomings?
Jay Lonner Bellingham, WA Sent from my Atari 400 On Jan 18, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Luke, after you get and fuss with them fenders, post the results, please.
Some pictures to go with would be great.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 07:50:50 PM MST, Luke Hendrickson <phendricks...@paulpath.net> wrote:
Scott – I ordered the Flat 65 yesterday after some consideration. I hope it’ll arrive by Tuesday or Wednesday of next week at which time I’ll hurriedly mount them. I think minimal modification will be necessary though I worry about reduced coverage due to their shape. On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 8:41:15 AM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
What did you discover? Did you by chance try the Flat 65?
Man, wonderful info about the 74s – thank you for taking the time to relay that. The above posted photos of them show a significant amount of modification (cutting) to fit which I might be game to do however what I won’t tolerate is losing ample clearance around the tire. I’m about to head into the shop for the day and will throw the Atlantis in the stand and see if any of the dimensions of the Flat 65s would work, etc. At the very least I’ll share the mishaps I encounter as I try to push the limits of what the Atlantis can fit with you all.
David – I appreciate that suggestion. I’ll throw around the dimensions of those with the mechanics today and see if they also see that working out. I feel pretty dedicated to the idea of fenders on this thing and the recent rain has left me wanting to ride more with less of a reason not to regardless of the weather. I feel like having fenders is the definitive way to make a bike a year round possibility, whether or not it’s a downpour.
- Luke in rainy, hailing San Francisco On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:34:30 AM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:
That's great info, though too bad the 74s won't fit out of the box.
Before giving up on 2.25s and fenders, I'd take some measurements and see if Flat 65s would work in the frame and fork (and chain in low/low). If so you should be able to get them setup with the 2.25s G-ones since they don't really have knobs (assuming the tires actually measure out to 2.25 or less).
I'm thinking that Smooth 62s with 50mm tires would work on my Platy so I'd guess the Atlantis could do incrementally more.
-Dave
I have a set of smooth 74's in my shop for another bike (not yet fitted) and holding them up to my Atlantis, they don't fit without cutting and heavily dimpling the fenders to fit between seat stays, also fork blades, and remove fender material around the chain stays. Not for the faint of heart but looks possible with patience and proper jigs for setting the dimples just right. There's little question that the fenders will fit over your tires, but on an Atlantis, it will take some work. The problem I would worry about is this, by the time you dimple the fender enough to fit, you may have lost your clearance around the tire at those points. If you remove metal at those edges where it is too tight then the structure of the fender is seriously compromised. I'd go with a smooth 62 fender and 50mm tire on Atlantis and save the 74's w 2.25 tires for a bike with more clearance (like a Clem).
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:21:11 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
Kim! Fantastic news. I had hoped the smooth would be operable as they look to have better coverage than the Flat 80. I appreciate the help here! Ordering pronto.
Kevin Purcell is co-owner of Golden Pliers in Portland, Oregon. ...left this out.
Kim.
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:51:08 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
Hi Luke,
On my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike, I am running a pair of Schwalbe Rapid Rob 29x2.25 ". As one of my last upgrades for my bike are the SimWorks Honjo Smooth 74 steel fenders as yet to be.
Before I came confident in a decision about which fenders I should buy for my bike, I had emailed Steve Smith, the General Manager at SimWorks in Portland, Oregon. He said that the Smooth 74s' would work. Steve referred me to Kevin, who owns an orange Rivendell Clementine bike. Kevin's bike has the Honjo Smooth 74 fenders. He had to modify the rear fender; cutting out a section for clearance for the chain above the chain stay. See attached pictures. I did not ask at the time what size tires Kevin is running on his bike. I was more concerned about what shim size I needed for a 27.2mm seat post for my Clem.
All in all, I can say that the Honjo Smooth 74 fenders with accommodate
29x2.25" or 57.15mm tires. In the description of the those fenders on the SimWorks website, the maximum tire size is 58~mm.
Hope this helps and not to confuse you.
Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA
..changing out my chain and rear derailleur to new.
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:00:16 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
Or even a Smooth 74?
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 6:38:49 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
Hey all! I just swapped out my beefy Maxxis tires for some 2.25” Schwalbe Allround tires. Would I be able to get by with the SimWorks x Honjo Flat 65? Or would I need the Flat 80? And how’s the fit? Any input much appreciated.
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