SPDs are ubiquitous, and you can find them for nearly free (for example, I 
have a couple of old but functional sets that I can send at cost, but I 
have no spare cleats).  If you like them generally, but find that they are 
lacking in some respect, then you can try the variations on the theme 
(eggbeaters, speedplay, road pedals, time, etc.), which all try to address 
some aspect of the clipless systems (float, platform size, weight, release 
mechanism, etc.).  Or if you decide that they're not worth the hype, then 
there you go.

Greg
Oakland CA

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:19:57 PM UTC-8 Philip Williamson wrote:

> I'm also Team Platform, and would recommend SPDs for a beginner into the 
> clipless pedal world. 
> I did ride Eggbeaters for several years, and made skateboard pedal decks 
> to turn them into platforms. It turned out I never ever rode without them, 
> so I just bought some platform pedals and donated or sold my eggbeaters. 
> One set of skatedecks is hanging above my tool bench as a "hey I did that," 
> but I'm not interested in riding clipless. If my riding changes to big 
> jumps offroad, I'd revisit SPDs. 
>
> Philip 
> Sonoma County, Calif 
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:05:09 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Platforms > clipless IMO. I’ve ridden both and like less hassle and fewer 
>> impediments to hopping on a bike. Should you not wish to listen to a 
>> stranger on the Internet and wish to go full steam ahead, I suggest SPDs 
>> especially since, were one to break out on the road, replacement cleats or 
>> screws are readily available at most LBSs. Many other clipless pedal 
>> options are not. 
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:46:09 AM UTC-8 Josiah Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Ted, clipless pedals are not useful for most of the riding 
>>> I do. That riding consists of commuting, trail riding, long and fast-ish 
>>> road rides, and both paved and off-road touring. The only time I still use 
>>> clipless pedals is for racing (which I do just a little of); platforms are 
>>> much better the rest of the time. Maybe I don't care about foot attachment 
>>> as much as some people, considering that I'm also a telemark skier, but I 
>>> think having your foot solidly attached is overrated. I think a lot of the 
>>> time people do it because they feel like they have to or it's what everyone 
>>> else is doing, even when there's not a good reason to- that was me for 
>>> years before I realized how good flat pedals are. Getting a nice pair of 
>>> pedals helped too- I got a good deal on some thin Crank Brothers platforms 
>>> with good spikes and nice bearings and they made me like flat pedals a lot 
>>> more.
>>>
>>> That being said, if you really want to try clipless pedals, I recommend 
>>> Time ATACs. They're the only clipless pedals I've used for the last few 
>>> years after moving away from SPDs and (eewww) Look road pedals, and I like 
>>> them for the float and the reasonably supportive pedal body as well as for 
>>> their performance in muddy conditions (I do race some cyclocross). SPDs 
>>> work fine too though, and maybe cheaper and easier to find.
>>>
>>> Josiah Anderson
>>> Missoula, MT
>>>
>>> Le dim. 19 févr. 2023 à 07:22, Ted Durant <tedd...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>>> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with 
>>>> toe clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have 
>>>> thoughts about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and 
>>>> out of. i get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I'll be the first to say it ... don't bother! I use Crank 
>>>> Brothers eggbeater pedals on most of my bikes, and I'm about to put some 
>>>> flat pedals on one of my regulars and do a fair amount of riding without 
>>>> bindings to see if I really still want them. I started going down the 
>>>> no-binding path a while ago, but much of my riding was commuting and I 
>>>> actually liked bindings for being able to accelerate quickly in traffic. 
>>>> If 
>>>> I was doing any group riding, I'd still want them, and for that reason 
>>>> even 
>>>> if I ditch the eggbeaters for most of my bikes, I will still keep them on 
>>>> my "group ride" bike (my Riv Road). 
>>>>
>>>> That said, I've been very happy with eggbeaters because 1) they're 
>>>> super easy entry and exit (as long as you replace the cleats regularly), 
>>>> 2) 
>>>> low profile cleats with lots of walkable shoe options, 3)there's no 
>>>> tension 
>>>> adjustment required and the shoe-cleat-pedal interface is secure as long 
>>>> as 
>>>> you replace the cleats regularly and use shims as needed, 4) choice of 
>>>> fixed or floating cleats (I prefer fixed), 5) no extra weight. You do want 
>>>> shoes with fairly stiff soles, because the pedal itself offers no support. 
>>>> On the down side, they don't have a flat/binding two-sided option, but 
>>>> that 
>>>> hasn't been an issue for me. I have a box full of old Shimano pedals and 
>>>> cleats. I could never get happy with the shoe-cleat-pedal interface, it 
>>>> was 
>>>> always too loose and wobbly or too hard to release.
>>>>
>>>> Ted Durant
>>>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>>>
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