I'm still loving mine. The only change I made since my last update was 
moving to slighly wider losco bars. At some point I am going to throw on 
some paul minimoto brakes but there is no real reason other than having 
some Paul parts. It should still be coming from Rivendell but I am not as 
fond of the updates they made so I am glad to have the proto version.

On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 7:49:49 AM UTC-4 Dustin wrote:

> Jason,
>
> Thanks for the update. Looks like a joy to ride. 
>
> What is that black, rectangular contraption attached to the bottom of your 
> seat tube?  
>
> Dustin
>
> On Apr 23, 2023, at 11:12 PM, Jason Fuller <jtf.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Been a little while since this thread was updated - in fact, I sold mine 
> around the time of the last post, but recently bought it back from the 
> friend I'd sold it to as I realized my mistake! I rebuilt it similarly to 
> before, but with a few differences such as a B17 vs C17 saddle, triple 
> crankset with early 90's XT, silver fenders.. but the same bars plugged 
> back in without so much as being unwrapped. It's truly ideal for my 
> everyday needs and I was crazy to have sold it in the first place - now the 
> Bombadil can be retired from commuting duties and as such, be reconfigured 
> to focus on adventure and bikepacking. 
>
>
>
> I haven't heard much out of Riv on this bike... wonder if it's still on 
> the books?? 
>
>
> <PXL_20230423_164506068.jpg>
>
>
> On Thursday, 17 November 2022 at 10:44:40 UTC-8 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Thanks Abe, that's super helpful. I'm coming from an analog 0mm extension 
>> (w)right stem and I used (I think) a 100mm Nitto stem near the the minimum 
>> insertion line 
>>
>> Next experiment will be to flip the albatross, I have long arms so maybe 
>> that will work better for me.
>>
>> Max
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 5:45:55 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_2063.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_2064.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_2076.jpg]
>>> FYI, after this photos I adjusted the inner bar ends a bit and will 
>>> again as I putz around on it. I have some inner bar ends in the mail too 
>>> which are like the SQLabs model, but these longer (150mm) bar ends are 
>>> pretty cozy so I'll try them both.  
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:18:39 PM UTC-8 Pancake wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, changed stems:
>>>> Soma Portola with 6cm extension Technomic
>>>> Nitto Labarross with 10cm extension Technomic
>>>>
>>>> Both were raised pretty high but the Albatross is nearly the the 
>>>> minimum insertion line (1cm shy) while the Portola was about 4cm shy of 
>>>> min 
>>>> insertion line. 
>>>>
>>>> I’m a heavy guy with long torso and short legs, brooks B17 saddle 
>>>> almost as far back as it will go on a S83 setback seatpost. 
>>>>
>>>> The Albatross bar setup is the same stem/bar setup I used on my 
>>>> Cheviot. With the inner bar ends I get tons of added forward reach to pull 
>>>> on or lean into, if I didn’t have those I’d probably want at least 11cm of 
>>>> stem extension though. Any less than 10cm extension and I’d worry about 
>>>> knee strikes on the ends of the albatross bars when they’re this low. And 
>>>> I 
>>>> wouldn’t use bar end shifters with the current setup for the Sam reason. 
>>>>
>>>> My next move is to try swapping the Nexus rd for an XT rapid rise rd 
>>>> with a 13t lower pulley wheel (replacing the 11t original). The Nexus 
>>>> doesn’t take kindly to heavy pedaling pressure uphill in a low gear, it 
>>>> starts to skip. This is probably because I’ve got it way past the max gear 
>>>> size and chain wrap capacities (46/30t crankset, 11-40t cassette). If I 
>>>> was 
>>>> less heavy I suspect it wouldn’t be a problem, but I’m hoping the wider 
>>>> wrap/capacity of the XT rd will eliminate this issue. 
>>>>
>>>> In the “hoods” (pulling on the inner bar ends) the Charlie is a rocket 
>>>> that pulls my weight off the seat to pedal harder and faster like in the 
>>>> drops or hoods. On the hand grips I’m in “sit up and beg” mode - very tall 
>>>> to see well in traffic and nice for standing up as I pedal uphills, but 
>>>> relaxed enough to putter around town for as long as I could want. The long 
>>>> arm (e.g., normal) v-brakes are just perfect and so strong I can’t imagine 
>>>> ever wishing for disc brakes. What a fun and versatile bike! These should 
>>>> sell out every time, it’s the best Riv I’ve been on (which includes: 
>>>> Cheviot, Sam Hillborne, Saluki, Homer, Gus, Suzie, Rosco Baby). Fast like 
>>>> Homer, strong and versatile like Sam, better braking than any other, 
>>>> swoopy 
>>>> goodness. 
>>>>
>>>> Abe
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:51 PM, maxcr <max.fai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Abe, I forgot to ask, did you change the stem length going from 
>>>> the Soma Portola to the Albatross?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also recently installed Albatross bars (not upside down) on my 
>>>>> Charlie, but I think I need to tweak them. I haven't installed my grips 
>>>>> yet, but after a quick 20m ride my hands/wrists made it clear that the 
>>>>> angle wasn't working.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a photo of the process, I'll post the new setup once I have 
>>>>> the grips finalized.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_8661 (1).jpeg]
>>>>>
>>>>> I do like the Paul levers / Paul v-brake combo, brakes feel better 
>>>>> than the cane creek ones I had on the noodles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Abe, would you mind posting a side photo of your CHG?
>>>>>
>>>>> Max, always tinkering in Boston
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 6:01:32 PM UTC-5 Scott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Excellent...thanks for the report, Abe!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 03:57:58 PM MST, Abe Gardner <
>>>>>> abe.g...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Schwable G-One Allround 700x50. Fits nicely, great for gravel and 
>>>>>> chunky pavement; very good on smooth pavement. Slight noise on pavement 
>>>>>> but 
>>>>>> only compared to Snoqualmie Pass (700x44mm) tire smoothness. I’d love to 
>>>>>> try Hatcher Pass (700x48mm smooth) next but thes G-One Allrounds are 
>>>>>> super 
>>>>>> (and cheaper by a small bit vs. Rene Herse tires).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m running them with tubes that have some Stan’s sealant inside - 
>>>>>> never a flat but currently a slow leak that probably resolved with the 
>>>>>> sealant since my lunch time ride. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 2:21 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What tires are those, Abe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 01:17:34 PM MST, Pancake <
>>>>>> abe.g...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <C4176DC6-AD02-4CDD-9BC2-C9C4BC167FFC.jpeg>
>>>>>> <A3B1A5B2-3946-48CF-8155-370280D0D8AD.jpeg>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I put albatross bars on my Charlie, mounted them upside down and 
>>>>>> raise the stem way high. This gives me a better grip towards the front 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> the curves of the bar, but I also put some bar ends at the most forward 
>>>>>> point, so they give a on the hoods type of position as well. very nice 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> pulling on and leading down into the wind. Open to suggestions on where 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> mount the shifters, they feel pretty good mounted towards the center. 
>>>>>> I’m 
>>>>>> really enjoying the bar is mounted upside down, it’s just a more 
>>>>>> comfortable way to hold in the curves. I am on a Nitto Technomic, 10 cm 
>>>>>> extension stem, this leaves the hand grips about level with the saddle 
>>>>>> at 
>>>>>> the maximum insertion point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> V- brakes! Switching to the albatross bars, with cheap, avid levers, 
>>>>>> and nice DRX brake arms improoves the braking dramatically. It’s really 
>>>>>> night and day compared to calipers or the short arm v-brakes I was using 
>>>>>> before. The stopping power both better modulated and much stronger. But 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> weird, unnecessarily, strong mechanical advantage of a short arm (85mm) 
>>>>>> V- 
>>>>>> brakes is gone. Long arm v-brakes are the only way to go. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m sure I’ll shift the cockpit around but so far super happy with 
>>>>>> the change (from Soma Portola drop bars and TRP RRL brake levers  with 
>>>>>> lite 
>>>>>> pro short arm v brakes).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abe
>>>>>>
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