Thanks Dustin, Eric - indeed it's an Abus Bordo lock.  A little heavier 
than a similar strength U-lock but it's handy having it on the frame where 
I can't forget it.  I'm glad to hear the production run is secured it 
sounds like, I suppose the quietness is just because they're in the waiting 
phase now. 

On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 08:28:07 UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looks great, Jason, and sounds like a good compliment to your other bikes. 
> It's cool to have your rigs squared and sorted for particular purposes. 
>
> Dustin — I'm not 100% but I think that might be a seat-tube mounted 
> folding lock that has a cage that mounts to the bottle bosses. 
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:13:33 AM UTC-4 DJC wrote:
>
>> I spoke with Vince three or four months ago about the Charlie project and 
>> he said they have it slotted for a 2024 production run. Hopefully this will 
>> happen, as I'm definitely interested in one as a daily commuter to 
>> complement my Clem H. The Clem is my workhorse and heavy hauler, whereas 
>> the Charlie would be my "fast" commuter.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 11:11:56 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Been a little while since this thread was updated - in fact, I sold mine 
>>> around the time of the last post, but recently bought it back from the 
>>> friend I'd sold it to as I realized my mistake! I rebuilt it similarly to 
>>> before, but with a few differences such as a B17 vs C17 saddle, triple 
>>> crankset with early 90's XT, silver fenders.. but the same bars plugged 
>>> back in without so much as being unwrapped. It's truly ideal for my 
>>> everyday needs and I was crazy to have sold it in the first place - now the 
>>> Bombadil can be retired from commuting duties and as such, be reconfigured 
>>> to focus on adventure and bikepacking. 
>>>
>>> I haven't heard much out of Riv on this bike... wonder if it's still on 
>>> the books?? 
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20230423_164506068.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 17 November 2022 at 10:44:40 UTC-8 maxcr wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Abe, that's super helpful. I'm coming from an analog 0mm 
>>>> extension (w)right stem and I used (I think) a 100mm Nitto stem near the 
>>>> the minimum insertion line 
>>>>
>>>> Next experiment will be to flip the albatross, I have long arms so 
>>>> maybe that will work better for me.
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 5:45:55 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_2063.jpg]
>>>>> [image: IMG_2064.jpg]
>>>>> [image: IMG_2076.jpg]
>>>>> FYI, after this photos I adjusted the inner bar ends a bit and will 
>>>>> again as I putz around on it. I have some inner bar ends in the mail too 
>>>>> which are like the SQLabs model, but these longer (150mm) bar ends are 
>>>>> pretty cozy so I'll try them both.  
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:18:39 PM UTC-8 Pancake wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, changed stems:
>>>>>> Soma Portola with 6cm extension Technomic
>>>>>> Nitto Labarross with 10cm extension Technomic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both were raised pretty high but the Albatross is nearly the the 
>>>>>> minimum insertion line (1cm shy) while the Portola was about 4cm shy of 
>>>>>> min 
>>>>>> insertion line. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m a heavy guy with long torso and short legs, brooks B17 saddle 
>>>>>> almost as far back as it will go on a S83 setback seatpost. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Albatross bar setup is the same stem/bar setup I used on my 
>>>>>> Cheviot. With the inner bar ends I get tons of added forward reach to 
>>>>>> pull 
>>>>>> on or lean into, if I didn’t have those I’d probably want at least 11cm 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> stem extension though. Any less than 10cm extension and I’d worry about 
>>>>>> knee strikes on the ends of the albatross bars when they’re this low. 
>>>>>> And I 
>>>>>> wouldn’t use bar end shifters with the current setup for the Sam reason. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My next move is to try swapping the Nexus rd for an XT rapid rise rd 
>>>>>> with a 13t lower pulley wheel (replacing the 11t original). The Nexus 
>>>>>> doesn’t take kindly to heavy pedaling pressure uphill in a low gear, it 
>>>>>> starts to skip. This is probably because I’ve got it way past the max 
>>>>>> gear 
>>>>>> size and chain wrap capacities (46/30t crankset, 11-40t cassette). If I 
>>>>>> was 
>>>>>> less heavy I suspect it wouldn’t be a problem, but I’m hoping the wider 
>>>>>> wrap/capacity of the XT rd will eliminate this issue. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the “hoods” (pulling on the inner bar ends) the Charlie is a 
>>>>>> rocket that pulls my weight off the seat to pedal harder and faster like 
>>>>>> in 
>>>>>> the drops or hoods. On the hand grips I’m in “sit up and beg” mode - 
>>>>>> very 
>>>>>> tall to see well in traffic and nice for standing up as I pedal uphills, 
>>>>>> but relaxed enough to putter around town for as long as I could want. 
>>>>>> The 
>>>>>> long arm (e.g., normal) v-brakes are just perfect and so strong I can’t 
>>>>>> imagine ever wishing for disc brakes. What a fun and versatile bike! 
>>>>>> These 
>>>>>> should sell out every time, it’s the best Riv I’ve been on (which 
>>>>>> includes: 
>>>>>> Cheviot, Sam Hillborne, Saluki, Homer, Gus, Suzie, Rosco Baby). Fast 
>>>>>> like 
>>>>>> Homer, strong and versatile like Sam, better braking than any other, 
>>>>>> swoopy 
>>>>>> goodness. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:51 PM, maxcr <max.fai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abe, I forgot to ask, did you change the stem length going from 
>>>>>> the Soma Portola to the Albatross?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also recently installed Albatross bars (not upside down) on my 
>>>>>>> Charlie, but I think I need to tweak them. I haven't installed my grips 
>>>>>>> yet, but after a quick 20m ride my hands/wrists made it clear that the 
>>>>>>> angle wasn't working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is a photo of the process, I'll post the new setup once I have 
>>>>>>> the grips finalized.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_8661 (1).jpeg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do like the Paul levers / Paul v-brake combo, brakes feel better 
>>>>>>> than the cane creek ones I had on the noodles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Abe, would you mind posting a side photo of your CHG?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Max, always tinkering in Boston
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 6:01:32 PM UTC-5 Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Excellent...thanks for the report, Abe!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 03:57:58 PM MST, Abe Gardner <
>>>>>>>> abe.g...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Schwable G-One Allround 700x50. Fits nicely, great for gravel and 
>>>>>>>> chunky pavement; very good on smooth pavement. Slight noise on 
>>>>>>>> pavement but 
>>>>>>>> only compared to Snoqualmie Pass (700x44mm) tire smoothness. I’d love 
>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>> try Hatcher Pass (700x48mm smooth) next but thes G-One Allrounds are 
>>>>>>>> super 
>>>>>>>> (and cheaper by a small bit vs. Rene Herse tires).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m running them with tubes that have some Stan’s sealant inside - 
>>>>>>>> never a flat but currently a slow leak that probably resolved with the 
>>>>>>>> sealant since my lunch time ride. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Abe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 2:21 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>>>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What tires are those, Abe?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 01:17:34 PM MST, Pancake <
>>>>>>>> abe.g...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <C4176DC6-AD02-4CDD-9BC2-C9C4BC167FFC.jpeg>
>>>>>>>> <A3B1A5B2-3946-48CF-8155-370280D0D8AD.jpeg>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I put albatross bars on my Charlie, mounted them upside down and 
>>>>>>>> raise the stem way high. This gives me a better grip towards the front 
>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>> the curves of the bar, but I also put some bar ends at the most 
>>>>>>>> forward 
>>>>>>>> point, so they give a on the hoods type of position as well. very nice 
>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>> pulling on and leading down into the wind. Open to suggestions on 
>>>>>>>> where to 
>>>>>>>> mount the shifters, they feel pretty good mounted towards the center. 
>>>>>>>> I’m 
>>>>>>>> really enjoying the bar is mounted upside down, it’s just a more 
>>>>>>>> comfortable way to hold in the curves. I am on a Nitto Technomic, 10 
>>>>>>>> cm 
>>>>>>>> extension stem, this leaves the hand grips about level with the saddle 
>>>>>>>> at 
>>>>>>>> the maximum insertion point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> V- brakes! Switching to the albatross bars, with cheap, avid 
>>>>>>>> levers, and nice DRX brake arms improoves the braking dramatically. 
>>>>>>>> It’s 
>>>>>>>> really night and day compared to calipers or the short arm v-brakes I 
>>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>>> using before. The stopping power both better modulated and much 
>>>>>>>> stronger. 
>>>>>>>> But the weird, unnecessarily, strong mechanical advantage of a short 
>>>>>>>> arm 
>>>>>>>> (85mm) V- brakes is gone. Long arm v-brakes are the only way to go. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m sure I’ll shift the cockpit around but so far super happy with 
>>>>>>>> the change (from Soma Portola drop bars and TRP RRL brake levers  with 
>>>>>>>> lite 
>>>>>>>> pro short arm v brakes).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Abe
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