OTOH: this is puzzling: I see so many Rivendells on this list with very,
very high bars, but with 52 tooth granny cogs; IOW gearing designed for
low-torque fast-cadence twiddling. I don't get it. When I spin I move
forward and down; when I torque I shove back and sit up. What gives?
Someone explain.

On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 6:18 PM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

> ... And one more interesting thing: A more forward and lower position
> makes you re-think your saddle position. With the M/A I had the saddle --
> first edition Flite -- slammed all the way back on the rails and seapost
> raised for full leg extension; I wanted to sit back and push forward.
> Leaning and reaching more forward, I wanted to move the saddle forward and
> down; which I did, ~7 mm forward and ~10 mm down. This felt better
> particularly in the hooks, which with the slightly lower and closer saddle
> are now much more comfortable. But the further-forward hoods position also
> make standing and grunting, as through sand, feel more natural compared to
> the closer and higher M/A. So perhaps I don't need a shorter or a higher
> stem after all.
>

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