Ahh, the mysterious pleasures of French frames. I have a 52 year old Gitane 
Tour de France - with an all Reynolds 531 frame. The French would use the 
top tube as the seat tube and the seat tube as the top tube from the 
tubeset resulting in the requirements of oversized brake cable clamps on 
the top tube (or just longer screws) and front derailleurs that needed 
smaller clamps for the seat tube. I found Rivendell years ago when looking 
for French frames. The 58 cm Gitane Tour de France frame weighs 7 lb. 5 oz. 
with Stronglight headset, Stronglight bottom bracket and fully Weigle Frame 
Savered - lighter than a 47 cm Roadini. All of the derailleur cable clamps, 
FD, and shifters are bolt on and the RD hanger is not part of the dropout, 
so it would make a very clean single speed, but given that it is an only 
ridden once, NOS bicycle, I haven't been able to bring myself to do it, 
talk about being precious!

Laing

On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 6:17:14 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> What are those Rivs, and why do you choose the PX-10 instead of them? What 
> sort of riding?
>
> I love Rivendell, but I'll not allow ideological purity to keep me from 
> choosing other bikes that please me better. Only, the very best bike of all 
> the scores that I've owned over the last 25 years is that 1999 Joe Starck 
> custom, and if I had the money I'd order a custom Legolas except without 
> the Legolas features to make it a as-light-tubed-as-possible gofast 
> derailleur road bike, and perhaps a customized Clem to take 700C X 3" tires.
>
>
>
> I liked that Motobecane, but the expensive Riv custom once converted to 
> commuting and errand duties was even more fun for utility riding, and the 
> Chauncey Matthews replacement for that Riv is even more fun for the same 
> purpose.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 3:21 PM Ryan <ryte...@mts.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes indeed. My 50-year old PX-10 is still being ridden  as a 
>> single-speed   . Much more than my Rivendells I'm afraid. Might soon be 
>> time to release those precious Rivendells
>>
>

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