It's a beauty! And in good hands. On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:07:33 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
> If Justin ever wants his old Chev frame back, he knows where to find me 😉 > [image: IMG_0441 2.jpg] > > On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:43:06 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote: > >> James said likely October before the new ones are in. They're coming in >> Sergio Green and Dark Gold, both frames and completes. Unclear specs on the >> latter but maybe something similar to Clem completes? I'm going to switch >> most of the components from my Clem for the build. Hopefully some pics to >> share soon. >> >> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:30:55 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >> wrote: >> >>> Well, I for one, am glad to hear it. Waiting for the next round of >>> Platypuses is probably going to take too long, and it’s still riding season >>> NOW. So, I’m thrilled for you and I hope you will post photos and give us >>> your thorough review! >>> Leah >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2023, at 9:52 AM, Justin Kennedy <thesix...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ended up ordering that 60cm Platy from C&L. Will keep you posted with >>> the build etc. Selling my Clem to a friend. Cheers everyone. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:23:53 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote: >>> >>>> Love those green Cheviuts, something about the blue accents really >>>> works. >>>> >>>> Justin, best of luck with your search! >>>> >>>> jared >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:06:34 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> [image: 12817569245_6446d68d56_b.jpg] >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That Cheviot is HOT! That bike had one of the best headbadges. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:34:30 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as club rides are concerned for and with the Clem, I would >>>>>>> say yes, if most everyone in the group is moving at a slow pace. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kim Hetzel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:28:51 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Doug - I share with you in very similar view points, regarding >>>>>>>> riding my Clem, too. I ride solo. I am not in a big hurry to get where >>>>>>>> I am >>>>>>>> going. I enjoy the ride. Yes, it is a heavy bike. I do not know how >>>>>>>> much it >>>>>>>> weighs. However, I am not bothered by the weight, because of it is >>>>>>>> truly >>>>>>>> the most comfortable bicycle for me as a senior cyclist; an upright >>>>>>>> riding >>>>>>>> position, low gears, a long wheelbase, stable handling and the Bosco >>>>>>>> bars >>>>>>>> are most ideal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For the record, I have no other experience riding any other >>>>>>>> Rivendell bicycles to compare my Clem with. I do not feel the need to, >>>>>>>> because my Clem suits my needs extraordinarily well. >>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel >>>>>>>> Yelm, WA. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:58:55 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Speed is not an issue for me and my ole Clem as I ride almost >>>>>>>>> exclusively solo. My question about Clem/Platypus was again in jest. >>>>>>>>> Leah >>>>>>>>> has ridden both more than most and so her opinion and comparison has >>>>>>>>> credibility to me. That being said, I like the style of the Clem >>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>> which is obviously the most subjective take one can make between two >>>>>>>>> bicycles. Me and ole Clem just mosey down the road and whatever speed >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> comfortable and have a jolly ole time doing it. >>>>>>>>> Doug >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Johnny, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Her Clem and Platypus (the one she uses on club rides) have >>>>>>>>>> similar builds (including the wheelsets) so you can take that out of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> equation. The frames are not the same, Platy is a lighter-tubed >>>>>>>>>> pavement-oriented bike patterned after the Sam Hillborne. I'm quite >>>>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>>>> she's right that head to head the Platy is going to be a bit easier >>>>>>>>>> to push >>>>>>>>>> hard in a group, and it doesn't have to be a major difference to be >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> difference between keeping up and feeling like you're struggling in >>>>>>>>>> a group >>>>>>>>>> of carbon dropbar bikes. Which I think is all she's saying, it's her >>>>>>>>>> opinion from her experience. Can you club ride a Clem? Sure, knock >>>>>>>>>> yourself >>>>>>>>>> out! It's just an opinion from someone who owns both bikes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyway, somebody sell Justin a 60cm Platy! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Joe Bernard >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:47:19 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Haha! You can indeed be shocking. My point is that the Platy is >>>>>>>>>>> not really a club rider. It can be made to be closer to one but you >>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>> have it decked out that way. If I was going to use it for fast >>>>>>>>>>> rides I >>>>>>>>>>> would lose the fenders and racks, go to light drops with brifters, >>>>>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>>>>> lighter wheels (I know that analog and HOW build great wheels that >>>>>>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>>>>> pretty light but I can bet that it doesn't have less than 32 spokes >>>>>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>>>> they focus on really good solid wheels not the absolute lightest), >>>>>>>>>>> do you >>>>>>>>>>> have lights on it?? I can't remember...those would go if they are >>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>> And at the end of the day you would still have a slack geometry and >>>>>>>>>>> LONG >>>>>>>>>>> wheelbase thats not typical go fast geometry. And none of that is >>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>>> critical because you know its not ideal in fact I always took your >>>>>>>>>>> point in >>>>>>>>>>> all of to be that any good bike can be used for that if you want >>>>>>>>>>> to. There >>>>>>>>>>> is not a world of difference between a Platy and a Clem. The >>>>>>>>>>> biggest thing >>>>>>>>>>> is the beauty of the frame and the lugs. I don't doubt you felt a >>>>>>>>>>> difference but there are lots of factors that could be coming in to >>>>>>>>>>> play. >>>>>>>>>>> People tend to put robust wheels on Clems because they are a >>>>>>>>>>> workhorse and >>>>>>>>>>> a commuter and they treat it as such and tires make sure a huge >>>>>>>>>>> difference. >>>>>>>>>>> But it could be many things. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have light supple wheels set up tubeless on mine with a good >>>>>>>>>>> wheelset and I can feel the geometry difference between it and my >>>>>>>>>>> road >>>>>>>>>>> focused Gallop more than anything else. But the geometry difference >>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>> the Platy and Clem is not that extreme. It was built to be lugless >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> affordable not necessarily more robust (although I am sure to a >>>>>>>>>>> degree it >>>>>>>>>>> is). I would be shocked if there was any major weight difference >>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>> the two frames when stripped down. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:19:02 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can be shocking! But I had my blue Clem as my only Riv for a >>>>>>>>>>>> long time, and I had it set up as best I could with light parts >>>>>>>>>>>> and wheels >>>>>>>>>>>> and tires and still I was exhausted riding it at speed and up >>>>>>>>>>>> hills. The >>>>>>>>>>>> Platy solved that for me, and I had light parts on both and had >>>>>>>>>>>> Analog >>>>>>>>>>>> build both wheelsets. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I tried the Clem for a club ride and I’m not lying when I say >>>>>>>>>>>> it taxed me. My heart beat so fast with the work I was putting in >>>>>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>>>>> was throwing PACs. Now, I don’t know your demographics but for a >>>>>>>>>>>> 5’6” 128 >>>>>>>>>>>> lb woman it was work to race that Clem around. There’s nothing >>>>>>>>>>>> lowly about >>>>>>>>>>>> a Clem and I wouldn’t call the bike slow, either. But it’s not a >>>>>>>>>>>> club racer >>>>>>>>>>>> by design, and I certainly couldn’t make it into one. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:01 PM, Johnny Alien < >>>>>>>>>>>> johnny....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am shocked Leah....as someone who regularly takes a bike >>>>>>>>>>>> with extra weight and a non-ideal gear ranges on club rides I >>>>>>>>>>>> think its >>>>>>>>>>>> unfair to label the Clem as not suitable for the same. I >>>>>>>>>>>> (personally) would >>>>>>>>>>>> probably make changes to a Platy set up as such before using it >>>>>>>>>>>> for club >>>>>>>>>>>> rides but YES as we have seen it can be used for that. I stand by >>>>>>>>>>>> the fact >>>>>>>>>>>> that people just setup Clems differently and that leads to the >>>>>>>>>>>> whole "heavy >>>>>>>>>>>> and not as nimble" thought. Riv geometry is Riv geometry and there >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> nothing specific that makes the Platy majorly different other than >>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>>> people treat them and adorn them. Personally I prefer the greater >>>>>>>>>>>> stepoverability of the Clem but I DO understand the reason why it >>>>>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>>>>>> labeled as lowly and slow. I just don't agree. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 10:15:28 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle >>>>>>>>>>>> Ding Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug, Well, I can tell you in earnest! Now, you know I’m on >>>>>>>>>>>>> your side about Clem-loving. I will never sell mine. But the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Platy is more >>>>>>>>>>>>> nimble and fits me like a glove. I race it around on club rides. >>>>>>>>>>>>> But I can >>>>>>>>>>>>> also haul a bunch of stuff with it. What can you not do with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Platy? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, gravel rides aren’t ideal, I suppose. Also, I hardly ever >>>>>>>>>>>>> see a >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheviot for sale. I think people tend to keep the Rivendell >>>>>>>>>>>>> mixtes. I’ve >>>>>>>>>>>>> wondered why, but that is a subject for another thread. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Clem is also good at many things on that list, excluding >>>>>>>>>>>>> club riding. That one time the Platy was in the shop and I took >>>>>>>>>>>>> it to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> club ride…I nearly died that day, astride my blue Clem…ah, >>>>>>>>>>>>> memories. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, Justin? You’ve had a Chev and a Clem… >>>>>>>>>>>>> L >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:56 PM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What is it about the Platypus that relegates the Clem to not >>>>>>>>>>>>> quite good enough? I ask in jest. I'm loving my Clem and if I >>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>> Platy it would have to be Clem plus one. I hope you find one in >>>>>>>>>>>>> trade >>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin but like Leah said it seems folks don't move on from a >>>>>>>>>>>>> Platypus >>>>>>>>>>>>> often. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 5:40:49 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love my blue Clem but dark green and orange sounds sooo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 4:19:31 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep and apparently they're doing completes, too? I'm not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely sure this is correct but I think James told me a few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks ago >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they're coming in Sergio Green. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Capture.PNG] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 4:03:58 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ding Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they coming in Sergio Green? I had heard silver and Ana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purple but that was many months ago. They maybe changed it. Do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what the second color will be? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with your search. I love a Platy above all else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I bet you don’t sell it, even in 2 years when you get the itch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to try >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something new. ☺️ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Leah. I saw that, but was hoping to get one at a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used price or to trade. Otherwise, I may hold out until the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergio Green >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plattys are released (September according to the most recent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calendar?) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, I love my Clem but yes, I miss the Cheviot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and am itching for something a little different. I rode >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will's platypus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I was there last summer and really dug it. Seems like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every two years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to change it up ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 2:25:12 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ding Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin, it says C&L has one in Canada. I’ve bought from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them before, they are the loveliest people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: rivendell-platypus-pride-o-the-cosmos-t-shirt.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cadre Rivendell Platypus Step-Through Countrybike Frame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-rivendell-platypus-step-through-countrybike.html?id=63304938&quantity=1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clcycle.ca >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-rivendell-platypus-step-through-countrybike.html?id=63304938&quantity=1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-rivendell-platypus-step-through-countrybike.html?id=63304938&quantity=1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:18 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll do some digging and see if I can find you one, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin. But I’m so curious - I know you loved that Clem and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Cheviot. Are you missing your old Chev? I have both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bikes and I find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Platypus far superior to my Clem so I get it. I’ll get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to looking… >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 9:37:27 AM UTC-4 Justin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just throwing this out there in case anyone has a 60cm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platty frameset they're looking to unload or would be up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for trading for my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 64 Clem (in Lime Olive). Would pay $$ differential, of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course. 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