Bones, 
Thanks. That's good to know. 
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 8:07:11 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> I do not have a DT 240 but I do have most of the other ones listed: 
> Silver, Deore, MI5, Onyx. I'm not a big fan of loud hubs and I found my MI5 
> obnoxiously loud; I was having difficultly having conversations with my 
> riding friends while coasting. I took the hub apart and applied a generous 
> amount of Phil's Tenacious Oil and it now sounds like a different hub. Much 
> much quieter and quite tolerable.
>
> Bones
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>
>> The noise of the White Ind Mi5 does concern me to some degree. Curious 
>> does anyone have both a DT 240 and a White ind. Mi5 to compare the noise 
>> level? I've got a DT 240 on a bike and would rather nothing louder than 
>> that. 
>>
>> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> @Johnny, Keith: Thanks for the replies. I've had several wheel sets 
>>> built by Rich at hands on wheels. I may go that route and shoot him an 
>>> email. I'm pretty sure the wheels that I'm currently riding are from Rich. 
>>>
>>> @Keith, Will, Garth: Not sure about the silver hubs. It'd think that if 
>>> it were simply out of stock, it'd say "out of stock" just like half of the 
>>> items on the Riv site. I had a silver hub on a Clem a few years ago and 
>>> liked it just fine. I was thinking of having the rear built with a Silver 
>>> 36h but then didn't see em on the site. Odd. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 4:39:37 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's little choice for quiet hubs so if you need 36 you may as well 
>>>> go with Deore's. For myself having a quiet hub is non-negotiable, so I've 
>>>> gone back to using threaded FW hubs for my future builds. The irony is 
>>>> that 
>>>> for the 7 cogs I use there's a better selection of freewheels these days 
>>>> than cassettes. Rich will build you fine wheels. I had him build a set of 
>>>> Alex DM24 rims with Deore/Suntour hubs for me but I've never used them. I 
>>>> also have 2 sets of Joe Young wheels. (He formerly built wheels for Riv 
>>>> waaaaay beck when before Rich.) He's in Granbury Texas, youngwheels.com 
>>>> I think. I still ride the first set he built in 1999, and of course, 
>>>> they're as straight as an arrow. 
>>>>
>>>> There's many things that Riv has that aren't on the menu as I think 
>>>> they're busy enough as it is and don't have much time for extensive upkeep 
>>>> of the website in totality. The "new" 7sp cassette hub was supposedly 
>>>> coming sometime, but as for noise I'd be surprised if it was quiet. 
>>>> Shimano 
>>>> is by their own words ditching most of their road and mtb groups in favor 
>>>> of the deathly black "Ican'tremember" line of bike parts that supposed can 
>>>> be used for road or mtb use. Of course, it was Shimano who messed things 
>>>> up 
>>>> by dividing them in the first place with different cable pulls. 
>>>>
>>>

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