It's all speculative at this point, since I don't know what if anything
will replace the Monocog. I talk to a local builder next month and I'll
likely be guided largely by him if we do agree, but a manually shifted QR
rear hub is simple and works well, so assuming that setup the rear would be
disc, 135 mm, prefer 6 bolt simply because that's what I already have.

(Maybe I'll ask him to build a frame with 114 mm OL rear for a 90 year old
SA 2 speed hub but with clearance for 80 mm tires, and watch the result.)

On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 12:11 PM Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:

> OK, good luck in your information gathering.  The hub vendor that I see
> selling a ton of different single speed variants is Onyx, but those have no
> chance at being anywhere close to your definition of cheapest.  For those
> who don't know from repetition, I guess it would be worthwhile for you to
> state the other specifics of the hub you seek.  OLD is 135?  Disc brake?
> QR?  Do you care if it's center lock or 6-bolt?
>
> Also the DOS ENO freewheel is only discontinued in the 16/19 size.  You
> can still buy a 16/18, a 17/19 or a 20/22.
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:46:32 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I'm not looking to buy anything yet. I'm wondering if such single speed
>> freehubs are still made. I see ss freehub bodies for sale online but not
>> hubs and I wonder if full hubs are for sale. I also wonder which are the
>> cheapest decent ones and also which ones most users on the list would
>> recommend. Also, I don't see any Shimano ss fh hubs so I wonder if Shimano
>> ever made them.
>>
>> As for buying, we'll see about that later.
>>
>> I don't want to bother about a second cog on the Monocog but I think of a
>> possible QR hub on a replacement with a short freehub body holding 2 cogs;
>> freehub because now the DOS is out of production; also because I can choose
>> my cogs. It's largely aesthetics and "philosophical squeamishness" but I'd
>> rather have a hub made for or more close in design for the task: freewheel,
>> 2 cogs, not a lot of space left over.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 8:58 PM Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, I'm not sure what you are asking. You've got some kind of
>>> single speed cassette hub on your Monocog.  What do you want to buy?  Are
>>> you looking to buy a different cassette body that you will install into
>>> your existing rear wheel to carry two cogs?  Or are you looking to buy a
>>> different rear hub?  Or a different rear wheel?
>>>
>>> The easiest thing may be to just run a "normal" geared rear wheel and
>>> run the needed stack of spacers along with two cogs to get you what you
>>> want.  I'm running three cogs on a short Capper cassette on one of my 120mm
>>> rear end bikes, but I don't think your Monocog is a 120mm bike.  I imagine
>>> there are a number of ways you could run two cogs on your Monocog.  You
>>> would just need to decide that you are going to do it and start spending.
>>> Given that you've been looking to replace the Monocog with a custom, maybe
>>> your gearing solution should be integrated with your frame choice.
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:50:02 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Too bad that the DOS fws are disappearing as the Dingle 2X fixed cogs
>>>> did. But question: My Monocog has a single speed freehub that takes a
>>>> Shimano HG-spline splined cog. A quick search just now shows Bontrager and
>>>> DT ss freehub bodies and some made by companies unknown to me, but are
>>>> these currently and readily available? Did Shimano ever make one?
>>>>
>>>> And: are any of these big enough to squeeze 2 3/32 cogs onto?
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone make 2-speed freehubs/fh bodies? I did not find any.
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Moore, tempted to put a 17/19 Dingle onto his SA ASC threaded
>>>> driver -- but not worthwhile since the quickest on/off axle retention
>>>> system with such hubs is wingnuts which are simply too cumbersome for quick
>>>> roadside stoop-and-change operations.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 3:11 PM Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not that anybody cares, but people reported the 16/19 was/is out of
>>>>> production.  That was partially true, and now is totally true.  When I
>>>>> reached out to Mike last month, he secured the last 16/19 that White
>>>>> Industries ever made.  It arrived today, so now I'm all set.  Eagle eyed
>>>>> parts buyers should keep your eyes peeled for a 16/19 because they are now
>>>>> officially 'scarce'.  Roaduno planners may have to make different plans if
>>>>> they were counting on a 16/19.  The 16/18 and 17/19 are still totally
>>>>> available.
>>>>
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