Thanks for the thoughts all.

And Garth, thanks for that picture. Now I see how it could make sense. 
Unfortunately, my bars are high drops, so the angle ends up creating a 
weird double bend that requires me to overshoot the hanger and loop back 
into it from the opposite side--I know a pic would help here, but this site 
makes it too difficult to upload.

Is there any reason NOT to go with the quill mounted Tektro? The Paul one 
is also quill-mounted, right?

I may not change this now, but it's annoying me and I'm moving other stuff 
around, so maybe doing it all now makes sense.

thanks

Adam



On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 12:11:03 PM UTC-6 JohnS wrote:

> This is timely, the Shove Research FMBCH...
>
> https://shovelresearch.com/fork-mounted-brake-cable-hanger
>
> Bling for the bike, about the same cost as the RH.
>
> Back to Adam's point that fork mounted hangers won't work with center pull 
> brakes, seems to me someone should make an integrated backing plate/hanger. 
> That would nice!
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 5:16:32 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> One factor in reducing front brake cable friction is a gradual, "natural" 
>> bend in the housing between its exit from the bar tape (aero levers, of 
>> course) and where it meets the stop. If your stem is high so that the 
>> housing leaves the bar tape (I'm assuming you use aero levers) far above 
>> the housing stop then I expect that a hanger with the angled noodle can 
>> actually make the bend tighter and less efficient for cable travel.
>>
>> Because my errand road bike (2020 Matthews custom) has a high stack -- 
>> upsloping tt and extended steerer and head -- the stem and therefore the 
>> bar is positioned relatively low above the headset. When I built the bike I 
>> installed a very nice, stiff, steel Shimano hanger but it has only about 1 
>> cm of drop. Together with the close bar the housing has to bend tightly 
>> when it exits the tape to meet the hanger. In this case, the angled noodle 
>> on the PS hanger would allow a more gradual bend.
>>
>> I recently bought a Rene Herse cable housing hanger, paying $59 because 
>> no one else offers a stiff, silver, steerer-mount housing hanger with a 
>> deep drop. While the Shimano hanger drops 1 cm, the RH drops fully 3.5 cm 
>> and will allow a much more "natural" bend.
>>
>> I have to confess that the tight bend with the short Shimano hanger 
>> hasn't caused a great deal of cable friction, but there's room for 
>> improvement, and since this is a "nice" bike I want to reduce it to the 
>> minimum possible. The longer RH hanger will do that. It also makes the 
>> housing bend look nicer.
>>
>> Tektro offers a deep-drop hanger for about $13 but that one is quill 
>> mounted so that you lose a cm of drop because it is clamped above headset 
>> locknut and a thin spacer. Of course, the PS hanger not only clamps to the 
>> quill but it's about a cm shorter than the Tektro and RH hangers.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 10:05:03 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>>
>> > Does anyone have experience with the problem solvers front cable 
>> hanger? The one with a built-in "cable noodle"?
>>
>> > I had an LBS install Paul racers on my hillborne and they used one of 
>> these. Changing the brake cables this week, I realized what an odd setup 
>> the cable noodle thing is, it puts a 45ish degree bend in the cable for no 
>> real reason. I'm > thinking that I should change the setup, any 
>> recommendations? Or is this not an issue?
>>
>> > When I changed the cable, the little plastic sleeve inside the cable 
>> noodle was cracked. Seems like a potential issue for no real purpose that I 
>> can see. Unfortunately there isn't an actual cable stop built into the 
>> hanger, so I think the > whole setup may need to be changed.
>>
>> > Thoughts, advice?
>>
>> > Here's the part:
>>
>> > 
>> https://www.thebikerschoice.com/product/problem-solvers-clamp-on-cable-hanger-182078-1.htm?variations=926322,926354?utm_source=google%20shopping&utm_medium=organic&cmp_id=18999470602&adg_id=&kwd=&device=m&gclid=CjwKCAiA9dGqBhAqEiwAmRpTCxJ5qK9TD6hipo0RYCdZIeE5F_M3FbHVnzmIbVVSUoKWshTJSoWaCRoCHJMQAvD_BwE
>>
>

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