> So, Bike Snob  is talking about retro grouches, their love of hand built 
> wheels
> with sensible spoke counts, distrust of recent technology, etc.

But Rando's do not distrust recent technology.  They use what works.

For instance, Steve points out above that Randos were early adopters
of the very modern and highly efficient generator hubs which are
gaining wider acceptance among cyclists. LED headlights common on
Rando biked may look similar to the lights used in the 50's, but the
better ones are designed to work as well as the best car or motorcycle
headligh.

Now the tech market is seeing their value, offering some wonderful
device chargers that hook up to the generator.  Likewise, the Rando
community has pushed such things as GPS and happily use portable
computers and other communication devices.

I suspect the reference to recen technology is preference for steel.
This also is nonsense.  Modern steel tubing is far more advanced than
it was 25 years ago.  Steel manufacturing R&D is every bit as vibrant
as carbon fibre.  Steel tubing will continue to improve.  It is pure
ignorance to assume steel is outdated.  In my opinion, ignorance is
not funny.

> as well as Buddhists making pilgrimages to the Bodhi tree, or some such.

Perhaps a little better than a Star Trek reference.

On Jun 9, 8:54 am, Jeff <[email protected]> wrote:
> Okay, since I offered up this tidbit, allow me to explicate.  So, Bike
> Snob  is talking about retro grouches, their love of hand built wheels
> with sensible spoke counts, distrust of recent technology, etc.  He
> then goes on to say (and I should have done a better job loosely
> quoting him) that randonneuring and touring are retro-grouchery in
> action (putting beliefs into practice.)  THEN, he makes the comparison
> to nerds attending Star Trek conventions, as well as Buddhists making
> pilgrimages to the Bodhi tree, or some such.  The point is that it's
> not a direct, one to one comparison of retro grouches (or
> randonneurs!) to nerds.  Instead, it's a typical example of Bike
> Snob's use of wildly unrelated, pop culture references to make his
> points while having some fun.  I get the impression he has a healthy
> respect for the curmudgeonly RG getting the job done with 36 spokes.
>
> That said, this certainly took us on an entertaining detour!
>
> On Jun 9, 7:59 am, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 05:54 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> > > Or are you saying BSNYC's audience for the joke was not Rando owners
> > > but rather people too dense to understand both the Rando concept or
> > > the many levels Star Trek failed to get things right?
>
> > Sounds about right to me.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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