> with plenty of modern electronic doohickeys and clip on battery lights.

Carrying a battery charged light is less technicallly advanced than
using a good dyno hub such as the SON.  There is nothing new about
battery technology.  Using energy generated by the ride itself is a
very sound solution.

On Jun 9, 10:03 am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:15 AM, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> So, Bike Snob  is talking about retro grouches, their love of hand built 
> >> wheels
> >> with sensible spoke counts, distrust of recent technology, etc.
>
> > But Rando's do not distrust recent technology.  They use what works.
>
> I fit the Snob's stereotype perfectly with my Frenchy style Boulder 650B, but 
> at local brevets, I've only ever seen one other steel bike and it was set up 
> like TT bike. Everyone else is on carbon and titanium race bikes with plenty 
> of modern electronic doohickeys and clip on battery lights.
> They call me "the suitcase guy" because of my big Berthoud bag :-)
>
> Ryan in Albuquerque
>
>
>
>
>
> > For instance, Steve points out above that Randos were early adopters
> > of the very modern and highly efficient generator hubs which are
> > gaining wider acceptance among cyclists. LED headlights common on
> > Rando biked may look similar to the lights used in the 50's, but the
> > better ones are designed to work as well as the best car or motorcycle
> > headligh.
>
> > Now the tech market is seeing their value, offering some wonderful
> > device chargers that hook up to the generator.  Likewise, the Rando
> > community has pushed such things as GPS and happily use portable
> > computers and other communication devices.
>
> > I suspect the reference to recen technology is preference for steel.
> > This also is nonsense.  Modern steel tubing is far more advanced than
> > it was 25 years ago.  Steel manufacturing R&D is every bit as vibrant
> > as carbon fibre.  Steel tubing will continue to improve.  It is pure
> > ignorance to assume steel is outdated.  In my opinion, ignorance is
> > not funny.
>
> >> as well as Buddhists making pilgrimages to the Bodhi tree, or some such.
>
> > Perhaps a little better than a Star Trek reference.
>
> > On Jun 9, 8:54 am, Jeff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Okay, since I offered up this tidbit, allow me to explicate.  So, Bike
> >> Snob  is talking about retro grouches, their love of hand built wheels
> >> with sensible spoke counts, distrust of recent technology, etc.  He
> >> then goes on to say (and I should have done a better job loosely
> >> quoting him) that randonneuring and touring are retro-grouchery in
> >> action (putting beliefs into practice.)  THEN, he makes the comparison
> >> to nerds attending Star Trek conventions, as well as Buddhists making
> >> pilgrimages to the Bodhi tree, or some such.  The point is that it's
> >> not a direct, one to one comparison of retro grouches (or
> >> randonneurs!) to nerds.  Instead, it's a typical example of Bike
> >> Snob's use of wildly unrelated, pop culture references to make his
> >> points while having some fun.  I get the impression he has a healthy
> >> respect for the curmudgeonly RG getting the job done with 36 spokes.
>
> >> That said, this certainly took us on an entertaining detour!
>
> >> On Jun 9, 7:59 am, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 05:54 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> >>>> Or are you saying BSNYC's audience for the joke was not Rando owners
> >>>> but rather people too dense to understand both the Rando concept or
> >>>> the many levels Star Trek failed to get things right?
>
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