The first run used mid-reach (47-57mm) brakes, the current model uses 
long-reach like Tektro R559. 

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 12:58:57 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Does the orange one have a different spec than the new ones? The dropouts 
> are perhaps different? Perhaps tire clearance as well? Just asking. The 
> Roaduno changed my mind. I have a tigged Riv (Clem) and a fillet brazed one 
> (Gus). So if I am to have a (completely unnecessary) third Riv I decided it 
> should be fully lugged.:)
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> On Jan 13, 2024, at 3:39 PM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I did and have exchanged emails with him. Nice guy and that is a good 
> price. I'm hoping for one of the green framesets but if one doesn't come 
> along I may buy that orange one if it's still available. Thank you for the 
> heads up!
>
> Doug
>
> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 3:18:51 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Doug, did you happen to see the 54 for sale on Craigslist, Cincinnati? I 
>> have talked to the guy & the price was down from $1,200 to just $950. It’s 
>> NOS or new never built or whatever. Looks new & is orange so from a 
>> previous batch? I seriously considered it as I could drive to pick it up 
>> but decided I did not need it.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2024, at 12:24 PM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I wanted to bump this up one time to see if anyone has a 54 for sale. I 
>> could buy a 50 from Riv but the saddle would be higher than I prefer on 
>> that size.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> That is helpful Brian. Thank you. And, nice job on the sand-stand!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 12:51:05 PM UTC-5 Brian Cunningham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's a visual, if it helps, of what a 54 looks like with approx. 74cm 
>>>> saddle height. If it's not instructive in terms of sizing, at least it can 
>>>> show you the possibilities of creating a quasi-kickstand out of sand.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:18:35 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It generally fits. He would be at the very top of what they suggest 
>>>>> for that size but if going for a road fit with drops being at the top is 
>>>>> preferable to being at the bottom. Most of their "size up" philosophy is 
>>>>> based on upright relaxed riding.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:55:30 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is somewhat surprising as it does not seem to align with Riv’s 
>>>>>> published size suggestions? I too am 5’10” & ride with a 72cm saddle 
>>>>>> height. 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had an email exchange with Will at Rivendell and he suggested a 
>>>>>> size 50 Roadini for me. I'm 5'10" with an 83 PBH and 71.5" saddle 
>>>>>> height. 
>>>>>> Since that size is in stock I'll probably get a frameset to build up. 
>>>>>> Thanks all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 12:18:39 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 5:28:34 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frameset or complete would work. 
>>>>>>> Doug Hansford
>>>>>>> Athens, Ga
>>>>>>>
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