Not what else is out there, but what should be—Rivendell should bring back 
the Frank Jones. 700c, sidepull brakes, 120mm rear hub, fully lugged, fits 
up to 42mm tires (I have 32s with PDW fenders). I have three Rivs (FJ, 
Platy, caliper Sam), but my FJ is what I think of when I want to ride 
simply, or simply want to ride. Without a doubt, an *elegant* bicycle.

On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 5:15:38 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> The Surly Steamroller can take a 38mm tire, but no fender.
>
> The sadly out of production Cross Check could do a 38mm with a fender.
>
> Eric
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:16 PM Edwin W <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I like single speed bikes, many like single speed bikes. The simplicity, 
>> the possibility of fixed gear, it is the epitome of biking for me, I think.
>>
>> I like the idea of the roaduno. So far it looks like it will have 
>> 700c/622 wheel size, long reach side pull brakes. Rear facing drop outs. 
>> Those are the main factors to think about, because stem length, handlebar 
>> and lever type, fenders or not, dynamo or not, are flexible on most bikes.
>>
>> What is the competition, and what are they offering?
>> Crust Lightning bolt single speed. 650b wheels with anti posts. 
>>
>> BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has 135mm 
>> rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>>
>> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>>
>> Edwin
>>
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