I don't presently own a Riv (gasp!) but since others have responded about 
non-Riv frames I'll presume I am still welcome to respond.

I recently swapped from a 46cm Nitto 177 (Noodle) on one bike, which I 
sold, to a 52cm Nitto M137 on my new touring bike. The M137 appears to be 
similar (or the same?) as the Crust x Shaka, but in a slightly narrower 
width. The 52cm measures out to around 47cm at the hoods, but to me it 
feels pretty darn similar to the width of my old Noodle. The difference is 
definitely in the backsweep (less) and flare (more) of the M137. 

Happy to share this non-scientific comparison!

-Eric

On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 2:53:27 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks re the Matthews. I'm glad Chauncey built me a couple of frames 
> before he quit the business. I hope to get a second wheelset for RH Fleecer 
> Ridge tires, ~60 mm on similar 27 mm IW rims.
>
> Just had a very nice road ride on another bike with Maes Parallels and as 
> always they felt good in the hooks, on the ramps, on the hoods.
>
> Does VO still make a Maes Parallel clone? They used to; I don't know how 
> wide they made them, though.
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 9:42 AM Josh Lubben <jtlu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Tim, the Nitto x Crust Shaka bar was one that had caught my attention. 
>> Wide but not overly wide. Not too much flare. Glad to hear you like it.
>>
>> Patrick, that is a lovely Matthews above. The Maes Parallels looks 
>> interesting, I wish it were offered in a slightly wider size than the 46cm. 
>>
>> The last drop bar I used consistently for a few years (on a Surly Cross 
>> Check) was a 50 cm Curve Walmer bar. This was after many roadie years on 44 
>> cm bars. I quite like the wider Walmer bar, but thought the flare of the 
>> drops was too much. I'm thinking toward something around 48-50 cm width 
>> would be nice.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 9:33:43 PM UTC-5 
>> ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:
>>
>>> Tried several including Rene Hearse Randonner & found the bends in the 
>>> bar left little room for the hands. 
>>>
>>> Have Settled on the Nitto “noodle” that Riv sells Nitto number is 177.  
>>> I find the bends & drop just right and the Tops & ramps roomy.    
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Lubben
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2024 12:29 PM
>>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Subject:* [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hi All!
>>>
>>> I currently have an Albatross bar on my Homer, which I love. I also love 
>>> doing bar swaps from time to time on my bikes as it can make the bike feel 
>>> like a completely different bike. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I'm curious to hear what drop bars folks are running on whatever 
>>> Rivendell you happen to own? I've considered the Crust Towel Rack bar for 
>>> my Homer, so if you happen to be using one of those I'd love to hear your 
>>> thoughts on that bar/see any pictures you might have. But as the post title 
>>> suggests, I'd love to hear about any other drop bars y'all like to use. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Also, if you've switched from a swept back bar to a drop bar on your 
>>> Riv, what adjustments to stem length did you need to make? I know this can 
>>> be impacted by the bar of choice, but just wanting to get a sense of how 
>>> much of change you experience in stem length.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>> Josh 
>>>
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