My guess is that Grant thinks the long chainstays are the clear winner, so
why make a lesser design? (I completely understand they aren't a clear win
for everybody)

It's also a way to differentiate Riv products--there aren't that many long
chainstay bikes around.

Eric

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 11:56 AM Brian Turner <brokeb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've groused about this before a bit, - it's more about the fact that I
> think that design characteristic is great for certain models, but doesn't
> need to be applied to the majority of the Rivendell lineup, IMO. As the
> owner of a Gus, I think it's great for that bike and it's intended purpose.
> It's extremely comfortable to ride, both on and especially off road. Same
> with Susie of course, and also Clems and Joes. What I can't understand is,
> instead of having two such similarly designed and equipped models as the
> Atlantis and Appaloosa, why not have just the Appaloosa be the long-stay
> version for those who want that feature in a touring-capable, all-purpose
> frame? I just don't understand this, given how they couldn't justify having
> both the Gus and the Susie / Wolbis and ended up discontinuing the Gus. At
> least with those models there was more distinct differences than I can find
> in the Atlantis and the Appaloosa. I think the venerated Atlantis should be
> returned to its more traditional touring frame geometry with stays that are
> closer in length to say, a Sam Hillborne.
>
> The super-long wheelbase does make traveling with, and storing the bike a
> lot more cumbersome. I understand how it affects the ride and handling of
> the bike, but to me, I'm not sure it is enough of a selling point to make
> me want to purchase any other Riv with long chainstays.
>
> Brian
> Lex KY
>
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