On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 9:11:20 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

...Smooth post cantilevers, in my view, raise the ceiling for a good 
mechanic.  I feel like the extra work required represents the mechanical 
"envelope" to get things perfect.  On these forums (RBW, IBOB, 650B) I've 
advised that the typical home-mechanic should probably not take on Rene 
Herse Cantilevers, it's too heavy a lift.  The second reason is that smooth 
post cantilevers give me more room to play with rim width.  In the hands of 
the right mechanic, I think smooth post cantilevers are preferable. 


Such a great, thoughtful response, Bill. I encourage everyone to read it 
through, even though I've kept just a small part of it here.

I had a laugh because Dia Compe 986 are exactly what I had in mind about 
impossible to readjust brakes. 20 year old me had them on both a Marukin 
Northstar and a Santana Elan. The Santana was especially challenging 
because Santana placed the mounts way too close together. They might have 
worked on a 5mm wide rim. The tandem was my wife's and my wedding gift to 
each other, and around our 30th anniversary I had Waterford do a full 
repaint and I replaced all the components with updated parts. Shimano CX-70 
brakes were a revelation and for the first time I had fully confident 
braking on the bike. Wished I had them on our honeymoon, camping in Vermont!

I hadn't thought much about rim width in writing my initial post, probably 
because I'd forgotten about the initial installation and choosing the right 
bolt/spacer combo on the CX-50s. But I don't think my mind is changed about 
the extent to which the Shimano CX system improves on smooth posts. On the 
contrary, the fact that I didn't have to think about that part of the setup 
when changing pads illustrates one of its advantages for me. Different 
length bolts and spacers would be compatible with the adapter I have in 
mind. Fortunately, having put 4 sets of CX brakes on bikes, I have a pretty 
good supply of spacers and bolts :-). I don't think the weight gain, if 
there is any, would be enough to change my mind.  

One thing that the CX and Rene Herse brakes have in common, that makes them 
such a pleasure (and so much easier) to work on, is the quality of the 
hardware. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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