How about "Spaghetti vs Macaroni" ?

On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 6:21:28 AM UTC-4 Ryan Ogilvie wrote:

> What are long chain stays in this metaphor? :-)
>
>
> Sent from my mobile device. 
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> On Apr 2, 2024, at 11:26 PM, fiddl...@gmail.com <fiddl...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Ribeye vs Burger: both get the same job done in different ways…neither is 
> a bad way to go
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> On Sunday, March 31, 2024 at 1:50:18 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ 
> wrote:
>
>> Enjoyed reading the thread "Anyone else not a fan of long chainstays?", 
>> especially Bill L's explanation of the RBW bike design philosophy.   Seems 
>> the prevailing thought is long stays are better for
>> upright riding
>> single track type trails (vs a Rails to Trails type trail)
>>
>> I'll just note 2 'facts'
>> 1  The vast majority of RBW models (except the Roadeo type frame) use 
>> slack STA and HTA which may contribute to the ride effect when coupled with 
>> long stays.
>> 2.  In the beginning RBW addressed getting the bars higher and adopting a 
>> non-racer riding style (back at 45° with hands on hoods), which IMHO were 
>> solutions to actual problems.
>>
>> *So What problem or current deficiency in bike design is Grant solving by 
>> using long chain stays????*
>> Just to bring bikes to market that no one else is building??
>> Or do they solve a real problem???
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> FWIW 2 of 3 of my frames have 44 to 45cm chain stays, and 1 has a 43cm 
>> chain stay.    It's hard to notice a ride difference.
>>
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