Count me in on the fracas for a green Hunqapillar if it is a 62cm! Always 
thought this would be my dream bike.
Randy in WI

On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 5:39:38 PM UTC-5 philip....@gmail.com wrote:

> Max, 
>
> I will fight you to the death for it.
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2024, at 8:51 AM, Max S <msh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This thread really makes me want to find a green Hunqapillar to put that 
> bullmoose bar on... 
>
>
> - Max "and this is how we ended up with so many bikes..." in A2
>
> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 11:38:08 AM UTC-4 larson....@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_2484.jpeg][image: 
>> E3DC21C4-E0AA-43EF-91A3-DF38B9CDA3DD.jpeg][image: 
>> IMG_2597.jpeg]Thanks P.W. - here are three more.
>> Randy in WI
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 10:20:59 AM UTC-5 Matthew P wrote:
>>
>>> I like'em and rode them today.
>>> A couple notes:
>>> 1. Integrated stem - less adjustability. Can't play with stem 
>>> (horizontal)length/reach nor rise/drop
>>> 2. Cant slam it completely, if you wanted/needed to, bc of built in rise
>>> 3. No clamp = no slippage there
>>> 4. Sweep angle, reach etc. - to each their own
>>>
>>> I have them all the way up on an old ('84?) StumpJumper and that setup 
>>> handles bad, terrible with a front load, but I blame that on the super 
>>> slack head tube angle.
>>>
>>> Send unwanted bullmoosees to me please :)
>>> Happy to trade for drops or something 
>>>
>>> Next build gets the chocomoose or Bosco moose I forget. 
>>>
>>> -Matthew P
>>> San Diego / Kumeyaay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 6:25 AM P W <philip....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Love that big boy Appa, Randy.
>>>>
>>>> More photos, please!
>>>>
>>>> P. W.
>>>> ~
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>>>> On Apr 18, 2024, at 5:38 AM, larson....@gmail.com <larson....@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> <IMG_2490.jpeg>
>>>> I am a fan of the bullmoose bars. On my 62cm Appaloosa I like them when 
>>>> the bike is set up as my ATB with bigger tires and more off road ready. I 
>>>> initially thought they were too stiff as I had some wrist and shoulder 
>>>> pain.Ergon grips solved this issue and I find them comfortable. I do set 
>>>> my 
>>>> bike up with Billie bars during the summer for road/gravel riding, and 
>>>> like 
>>>> them as well. I like the aesthetic of the bullmoose and probably could 
>>>> make 
>>>> them work for all of my riding.
>>>> Randy in WI
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 12:25:56 AM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Serious thanks to everyone for the photos & advice! I think I'm going 
>>>>> to go for a set. Seems like looking at the photos it will suit my height, 
>>>>> build, and even my setup on the Atlantis. I set my Cheviot back up with 
>>>>> Albatross bars and while there's nothing wrong with having multiple bikes 
>>>>> with the same bar, variety is just more fun. 
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 10:14:44 PM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a pair that i used to have on my appaloosa. I’m around 6’1-2” 
>>>>>> and i really like the width and sweep. On my ‘21 appaloosa the reach was 
>>>>>> good, some might consider it too long. i think itd probably be nice on 
>>>>>> an 
>>>>>> older atlantis, just assuming that it would have a shorter top tube. 
>>>>>> very 
>>>>>> solid bars of course, no flexy. One of the coolest looking bars, I’ll 
>>>>>> always have them in the collection i think, I’m a perpetual bar swapper. 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> have the tig version, wish they were the fillet but both are good. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 10:47:03 PM UTC-4 
>>>>>> philip....@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Max,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was just about to say your SimpleOne is the perfect bike.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clearly we have overlapping tastes!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our green bikes should be friends.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Philip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P. W.
>>>>>>> ~
>>>>>>> (917) 514-2207
>>>>>>> ~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2024, at 7:39 PM, Max S <msh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've tried them on my (dearly departed) SimpleOne, my QuickBeam, 
>>>>>>> and even my Serotta. Great bars, and I could even use the forward 
>>>>>>> extension 
>>>>>>> to get low and fast. I still have these bars, waiting to be put back on 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> QB to make it into the tracklocross hoon wagon that it wants to be. At 
>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>> hair over 6' tall, I felt the bar was a little too wide for me, and 
>>>>>>> I've 
>>>>>>> been tempted to cut it down a bit. For you, the width might be perfect. 
>>>>>>> As 
>>>>>>> far as commuting goes, I'm of the opinion that for commuting involving 
>>>>>>> city 
>>>>>>> streets, a narrow bar is better. If your commute involves some dirt, or 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> bike gets used for different things and the commute doesn't involve 
>>>>>>> cars 
>>>>>>> passing close, then bar width is maybe of less consequence. Also, if 
>>>>>>> you're 
>>>>>>> running a loaded front bag or basket, and the head tube angle is < 72 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> trail is >45 mm, IMO, the wider bar and rearward position really help 
>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>> steering. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Max "the ghosts of bikes past" in A2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <SimpleOneBullmoose copy.jpeg>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 10:03:43 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi exliontamer. I'm a little bit taller than you, also with broad 
>>>>>>>> shoulders, burly, and I have a Toyo Atlantis (61) with a Nitto-Riv 
>>>>>>>> Bullmoose. I like the bar, it looks great, and I love the integrated 
>>>>>>>> stem. 
>>>>>>>> Aesthetically I think the Bullmoose looks badass on the Atlantis. I 
>>>>>>>> had to 
>>>>>>>> raise the bar up as high as I can get it.... it's probably a couple of 
>>>>>>>> inches higher than saddle height. Otherwise the reach is too long *for 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> riding I have been doing*. It makes me stretch out more than is 
>>>>>>>> comfortable 
>>>>>>>> for my wrists and shoulders. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So this is where my opinion starts diverging from other respondents 
>>>>>>>> on this thread: I'm honestly getting sick of the Bullmoose. Every time 
>>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>>> ride it I wish it were a Chocomoose or a Boscomoose. I run a 
>>>>>>>> Boscomoose on 
>>>>>>>> my Hunqapillar and love and prefer it. In other words, I have direct 
>>>>>>>> experience with both bars on *roughly* similar bikes that makes 
>>>>>>>> comparing the bars pretty easy. For commuting, bopping around town,  
>>>>>>>> riding 
>>>>>>>> paved trails and on straightforward gravel, nothing overly 
>>>>>>>> "technical," for 
>>>>>>>> me the Boscomoose is hands down preferable to the Bullmoose. I am 
>>>>>>>> looking 
>>>>>>>> at my actual riding as opposed to aspirational riding. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But clearly a lot of people love the Bullmoose. It's just not 
>>>>>>>> working for me, my body, my riding, now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *If anyone reading this has a Chocomoose or Boscomoose they want to 
>>>>>>>> sell me or trade for the Bullmooose, please reach out to me directly 
>>>>>>>> so we 
>>>>>>>> can make a deal.* If I can't find one I might just go with an old 
>>>>>>>> Albatross bar and a lugged stem instead of the Bullmoose, even though 
>>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>>> prefer bars with integrated stems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd be curious to know what setup(s) you're riding now. I hope this 
>>>>>>>> is helpful, but don't hesitate to let me know if any questions come 
>>>>>>>> up. 
>>>>>>>> Here's a photo to give you a sense of height and reach.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: Atlantis.jpg]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’ve got them and I love them. They’re solid and I never have to 
>>>>>>>>> worry about them suddenly slipping.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m 6’-0” and the reach is perfect—all of my bikes have had 
>>>>>>>>> straight-across or cruiser bars (as opposed to drops or the 
>>>>>>>>> swept-back 
>>>>>>>>> style) so these are a natural, comfortable, familiar fit for me. I’ve 
>>>>>>>>> probably got them mounted at--or just below--the height limit. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_9209.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2024, at 4:55 PM, exliontamer <rollu...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone have opinions/real world experience with the Nitto/Riv 
>>>>>>>>> Bullmoose bars? I've been thinking of putting them on my old Toyo 
>>>>>>>>> Atlantis 
>>>>>>>>> since they came out. I'm a pretty broad shouldered 6'2" so the width 
>>>>>>>>> would 
>>>>>>>>> likely work for me. Mostly curious about the reach, how high they can 
>>>>>>>>> get, 
>>>>>>>>> & if they're comfortable for commuting.  
>>>>>>>>>
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