Joel, Is that a pocket or a giant patch on the bottom of the shirt? If pocket, is it useful? If patch what in the heck is on the other side?
Tarik On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:02 PM, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote: >> Might try a Swobo if our local dealer gets them in. > > Here is the one I am talking about. Typical Swobo, It at least appears > to be the toughest in the bunch. Someone complains about the swobo > patch sewn inside near the bottom. I never notice it. > > http://www.swobo.com/catalog/product_info_m.php?cPath=1523&products_id=741 > > The ultra fine merino wool is signicantly lighter than any wool > product I have to date. > > On Jun 15, 2:47 pm, EricP <[email protected]> wrote: >> Have not seen those. Might try a Swobo if our local dealer gets them >> in. The lightest ones I own are the NZ versions from Rivendell, in >> blue. Both sleeved and sleeveless. The latter only if I'm wearing a >> seersucker top over it. >> >> Somehow, I end up reacting to heat different than others. Just ask >> the folks on the SoCal Riv Ride last August. Nearly collapsed due to >> dehydration and that was after consuming 2 water bottles on the ride. >> Luckily Derek had a spare bottle to loan while we were on Coronado. >> Ugh. Still can't figure that out. Thanks again for that ride. >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >> On Jun 15, 2:28 pm, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Outlier, Swobo and Swerve all make tee-shirts (Outlier a polo shirt as >> > well) out of the new very light merino wool weaves available. >> >> > I have one from each and have worn them all on some hot humid days >> > here in Chicago with no complaints at all. >> >> > None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if >> > that is your thing. >> >> > On Jun 15, 2:21 pm, Jim Cloud <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? >> >> > > Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the >> > > summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and >> > > lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, >> > > compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period >> > > the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that >> > > evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also >> > > during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures >> > > (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity >> > > attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our >> > > "Dog days of Summer". >> >> > > Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual >> > > apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter >> > > weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing >> > > a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very >> > > comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only >> > > problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've >> > > never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably >> > > work well. >> >> > > The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of >> > > summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around >> > > sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so >> > > springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I >> > > try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the >> > > day. >> >> > > Jim Cloud >> > > Tucson, AZ >> >> > > On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during >> > > > > the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of >> > > > > nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during >> > > > > our >> > > > > summer weather. >> >> > > > Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when >> > > > humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is >> > > > perfectly >> > > > comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, >> > > > tho' I >> > > > have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture >> > > > wonderfully >> > > > and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer >> > > > knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest >> > > > days >> > > > I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, >> > > > for >> > > > ventilation. >> >> > > > I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new >> > > > technical plastic fabrics. >> >> > > > > Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks >> > > > > the >> > > > > moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter >> > > > > weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau >> > > > > and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool >> > > > > jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). >> > > > > They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine >> > > > > and >> > > > > dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the >> > > > > garment or anything like that. >> >> > > > I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction >> > > > knickers >> > > > -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them. >> >> > > > > I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in >> > > > > New Zealand as a summer weight jersey. Their "Slingshot" model, with >> > > > > polyester and a cotton outer layer looks very nice for our weather. >> > > > > Here's a link: >> > > > >http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-SLI-SUM.htm >> >> > > > > Jim Cloud >> > > > > Tucson, AZ >> >> > > > > On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional >> > > > > > for >> > > > > > me. Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the >> > > > > > thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions. Although >> > > > > > my >> > > > > > Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of >> > > > > > weather and I've lived to tell the tale. >> >> > > > > > Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt >> > > > > > St. Paul, MN >> >> > > > > > On Jun 14, 6:10 pm, cyclotourist <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was >> > > > > braking a >> > > > > > > cycling rule. >> >> > > > > > > Shame on me! >> >> > > > > > > Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. Like 'em a lot! A bit >> > > > > > > longer >> > > > > than >> > > > > > > MUSA shorts, which is a plus. I think the MUSAs have better >> > > > > > > material >> > > > > and >> > > > > > > more bar stitches though. >> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Bruce <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > I've used this very same line, "Don't sheep have to wear wool >> > > > > > > > year >> > > > > round?" >> > > > > > > > Wool works great when it's hot. It dissipates sweat better and >> > > > > doesn't >> > > > > > > > abrade sensitive skin areas like micro fiber can. I usually >> > > > > > > > wear wool >> > > > > shorts >> > > > > > > > too, but had on ZOIC MTBs this time. >> >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------ >> > > > > > > > *From:* cyclotourist <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > *To:* [email protected] >> > > > > > > > *Sent:* Mon, June 14, 2010 5:04:09 PM >> >> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides >> > > > > > > > tomorrow.. >> >> > > > > > > > Ahhhh, I get it. >> >> > > > > > > > Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? What's wrong with >> > > > > > > > wool when >> > > > > it's >> > > > > > > > hot (presuming it's thin like Swobo is)? >> >> > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> > > > > > > > Google >> > > > > Groups >> > > > > > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to >> > > > > [email protected]. >> > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > > > > > > [email protected]<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib[email protected]> >> > > > > <rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected]<rbw-owners-bunch%252bunsub[email protected]> >> >> > > > > > > > . >> > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at >> > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > Cheers, >> > > > > > > David >> > > > > > > Redlands, CA >> >> > > > > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. 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