Patrick,
I'm at a loss why your Hillborne is behaving that way. My experience is
exactly the opposite; after many many miles touring on my Expedition (which
I still love) my Hillborne in comparison is rock solid with a loaded rear
rack, and is one of the easiest bikes to noodle up a steep slope. Mine is a
52cm frame, Tubus Vega rear rack and some ancient REI large panniers I've
been using for years. Could it be my frame uses 650B wheels? I tour with
cheap Col de la Vies, but run Hetres around town. The Hetres do make a
difference speed wise and though it's not exactly like hurling along on my
Heron with skinny tires, I don't find a problem pushing along at 18-20mph on
my morning runs. My drop bars (Nitto Noodle) are ever-so-slightly below
saddle height and although the front end is lighter feeling with a full
camping load on the back I do not experience the front-end vagueness you're
experiencing. I'm not downplaying your experience, I'm just not sure what's
causing it. I hope someone else might shed a light.

Phil Roberts
Chandler, AZ

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:56 PM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:

> Disappointment. I've owned 3 Riv customs, designed for fast road riding,
> and all, particularly the second two, have been magnificent in fit, feel and
> handling, even with rear loads. So I was hugely disappointed to take my SH
> out for a quick 20 mile shakedown ride with 35 lb or so in the rear (An
> Ostrich in the front, but lightly loaded). Too much front end vagueness:
> fast downhill sweeper was uneasy-making, and, coming back up sitting at 5-6
> mph, the front end wandered all over the place.
>
> I have the bars about even with the plane between rump and nose of saddle;
> don't want them higher.
>
> Riv build, so Jack Browns; stiff Tubus Logo rack. The panniers were not
> optimal, having been borrowed from my (better handling under rear load,
> actually) '73 Motobecane flexy 531 racing bike and sitting a bit further
> back than they need to be.
>
> But what can I do to reduce the front end flop? New fork? New bike?
>
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