+1 for Mojo's set-up.  I have the same on my Atlantis (did require un-
authorized fork mods to provide mounts for the Duo).  The Acorn Boxy
Rando sits low enough not to have too much affect on handling but is
readily accessible.  The Duo pops on & off easily and is compact for
packing the bike for shipping.

dougP

On Jun 20, 6:11 am, Mojo <[email protected]> wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> Good news! I am glad to hear you are happy with the Sam handling
> afterall.
> This is how I set up my poor-substitute for an 
> Atlantis.http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695...@n00/4601203765/in/set-721576074...
> The Duo front rack is so minimal and sturdy. It does have only a 10.75
> pannier attach distance, compared to 12.75 distance on the rear Tubus
> Cargo. I am becoming addicted to the Nitto M12 for bags or basket, and
> to hold a headlight, and provide a 3rd fender mounting point.
>
> On Jun 19, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It was in shallow retrospect grossly, ineptly and almost culpably ignorant
> > of me to think I could just take 1 1/2 times a bike's weight and shove it on
> > the back anyhow and expect the bike to handle normally. Anyway, I just got
> > back from a brief 17 mile out 'n' back -- flat, no hills, but a few modest
> > curves -- on the SH, this time with 42 lb in back BUT in the Ortliebs
> > properly installed on the Logo. *What* a huge difference. It's at least as
> > good as the Motobecane, probably a bit better -- with this amount of weight
> > -- thanks to the stiffer rack (I assume it's stiffer; it's a Tubus and it
> > has more struts) and, I daresay, stiffer frame -- it's not light 531,
> > anyway. The bike still wanders, and I expect that after a couple of hours on
> > it even this amount of wandering would get tiresome, but it is hugely,
> > emphatically and excessively better than with the Axioms hanging off the
> > rear of the rack. How obvious in retrospect!
>
> > Anyway, I think that the ideal, that will make this bike quite wonderful as
> > a tourer -- and I deliberately chose it over the beefier Atlantis -- will be
> > to take, say, 15 or so lb from the rear and put it on the front.
>
> > Which leads to the question: how best to load the front? Platform or porteur
> > rack and big bag, or low riders? I guess, from what others say, that I will
> > be carrying 40 to 50 lb total of load and, again, perhaps 3:2 rear:front.
>
> > So, porteur or low riders? And, what is the best value for each -- I mean,
> > brands, models? I know Tubus and Ortlieb are safe bets, but they are of
> > course expensive.
>
> > Thanks. I may have an Ostrich and a Nashbar rack, plus decaleur bits, to
> > sell.
>
> > --
> > Patrick Moore
> > Albuquerque, NM
> > For professional resumes, contact
> > Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] Hide quoted text -
>
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