Jeesh - I still got the rack names wrong. This is the one I believe had issues. M-12 (I think this is the one that had problems) [image: Nitto-M12-Front-Rack-870-024-11-4] This is the one that looks like it might be a replacement NF-22
[image: Large, zoomable image of Nitto NF-22 Front Rack 870-444. 1 of 1] This is the Riv Campee. 32-F ( I don't think this one had problems) [image: Large image of Nitto Rack Front Campee 32F Riv Mini. 1 of 7] This is the M-18. Don't know if it had problems, but the diving board didn't allow it to carry much, which is why Mark designed his namesake rack: [image: Nitto M-18 Bicycle Front Rack DB Japan - Picture 1 of 1] This is the Mark's rack (M-1) https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-marks-rack-m1-20108?srsltid=AfmBOoppX-H_u9HjigIIF_a-Wt1C5IalFtEmeRiFKz8KsdKv7D0g5Eqe I already don't know what the hell I was talking about when I typed R-25. On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 6:01:42 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote: > For the record, both of these have been discussed ad-nauseam in Rivendell > posts. Whether it was Grant or Will or somebody else, I can't recall and > don't want to spend time looking. > > The reasons, I'm less sure about recalling because they didn't affect me > as much. I believe they ar as follows: > > 1. Unlike the Quickbeam (and Simple One), the bottom bracket on the > Roaduno is lower like a typical Rivendell bike. So pedaling around corners > with a fixed gear is more treacherous. > > 2. Nitto had some issues a few years back, with idiots putting too much > weight on their front racks, and breaking them - leading to a risk of > locking the front wheel. I seem to recall the R-25 or M-18 had more issues > than the 32-F (Campee rack originally designed aroung a Riv standard). It > might even ave been around the time that Riv introduced the Mark's rak. I > think perhaps Nitto even contemplated discontinuing them, but Riv convinced > them to keep doing it if they were very diligent about specifying weight > limits and recommending the safety strap, so Nitto keeps making them. With > very conservative limits. > > On a related note: While composing this and trying to recall the model > numbers of the various racks, I discovered a Nitto NF-22 that I haven't > seen before . I wonder if that is an update to the R-25 rack that had > issues, and eliminates a stress riser at the crown thruy- bolt by curving > the strut. > > On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 4:08:41 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: > > I learn more about Riv from Bike Snob than from their website, tho' that > would easily be fixed if Grant posted more often. > > Weiss has devoted a large part of several recent posts to his new Roaduno. > He mentioned these suggestions, from Rivendell, today. > > First, "don't use your Roaduno as a fixed gear:" > [image: image.png] > Second, in the catalogue description of the Mark's Rack: > > ALWAYS use this rack with a tether between the tall tongue-loop and the > handlebar. It's a strong little rack, but people do dumb things, and the > tether is a safety measure. Make the tether out of cord or any adjustable > strap. > > I'm puzzled: first, why not use the Roaduno as a fixed gear or with a flip > flop hub? > > Second, I guess this is just extreme legal self-protection against truly > clueless idiots, but do you many users of the Mark's Rack use a strap? It > seems to me that a well-designed and well-built rack used with common-sense > caution should not need such a makeshift backup. > > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c0a946c9-fcef-47cc-9336-76f63edadd35n%40googlegroups.com.
