I don’t mind plastic, tho’ I’ll choose stainless steel when I can. But I’ll
choose bottles with a full flip-up cap over the spout or mouth, even if
plastic, over an unprotected bottle in steel since I often ride on
horse-infested roads and paths.

The best of both worlds are full-cover flip-top stainless steel insulated
bottles of more or less standard — 2 7/8” -- bottle cage size that hold
roughly the same as a large standard plastic water bottle. These are hard
to find in the exact diameter, but yes, Iris cages do accommodate the
slightly oversized (3”?) REI ones, and my plastic Specialized cages fit the
slightly undersized (2 5/8”?) ones (augmented with several layers of tape)
that I got on Amazon. Neither is offered now, I think. I use insulated
steel bottles mostly in cold weather.

That said, I just received a pair of very plastic and *very* squeezable 950
ml bottles with full flip up covers — also hard to find -- that will do
nicely in warm weather.



On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 7:54 PM John Robert Williams <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I second the notion of no plastic water bottles. For over a decade, I've
> used the Kleen Kanteen 27 oz stainless containers, they are the same
> diameter as the standard plastic bike water bottles. The secret is to use
> the King Cage Iris cages. They snugly hold onto any stainless bottle with
> ZERO rattle. For added convenience, I purchased a brand of screw-on
> replacement lid called "The Coldest Water". It has a straw that reaches to
> the bottom of the Kanteen and has a flip-up mouth tube that allows for
> sipping without tipping up one's head....why every bike bottle doesn't have
> this is a mystery. Looking to the sky to drink is a recipe for disaster
> whilst moving along at a decent clip. I also have the un-insulated Bivo's
> as well for frames that cannot handle the length of the long containers.
> They are praiseworthy. I have zero need for ice water. Ambient water temp
> is fine with me. IMHO, stainless is the only way to go. Bivo's work well
> with the Iris cages. Cheers!
>
> JohnRobertWilliams
> Traverse City, MI
>

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