I have Dia Compe long reachers on my Homer, I think they're for all intents and purposes the same as the R559, have Kool Stop pads on them too. I find them pretty good, I think for any major upgrade to the performance you'd have to go to the Paul Racer which are a pretty penny. The only time I'd find them inadequate would be descending steep off road stuff in the rain, in which case you can generally just take a different route and hey presto no problem.
On Monday, 31 March 2025 at 14:53:59 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: > What brakes are you guys using? I've got some Tektro R559 on now with the > kool stop pads which seem to be great so far but curious what a bigger > upgrade would look like since I've been wanting to push the Roadini. > > Thanks, > Nic > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 5:35 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I was riding my Roadini down a muddy double track with some rocky >> sections yesterday with 32s and was also surprised by how smooth it felt. >> I'm chalking it up to the fork flex. I go back and forth but Ive been >> really enjoying riding everything with the skinnier tires. >> >> Nice fixed gear Patrick. I'm building something up somewhat similar for >> as cheap as possible soon. I miss riding fixed. >> >> -Dan >> >> On Saturday, March 22, 2025 at 8:53:31 PM UTC-4 Dan wrote: >> >>> I share your thoughts Jay. I took my Roadini on a mostly-road ride >>> today, but mixed in some mellow gravel trails and singletrack. The bike is >>> unperturbed. Is it a mountain bike? No. But it can go anywhere. I'm >>> reminded of some words by Will from Riv where he said the Roadini opened up >>> his riding to be able to take the singletrack shortcut to bypass a busy >>> road, etc. It's true. >>> >>> I recently read an old Riv Reader (from 2005 or so) where they >>> introduced the concept of 'Country Bikes'. I think the current Roadini with >>> its wider tyre clearance fits the description to a tee, and looks very much >>> like the Saluki they used to illustrate the concept. Sure, with the >>> proliferation of gravel bikes today, the idea of a 'country bike' as a >>> category has become reality. But by 2005 standards, I'd say the current >>> Roadini is a country bike. The world hasn't changed that much since then - >>> just our perceptions of it and what we think is necessary. >>> >>> On Saturday, 22 March 2025 at 23:44:16 UTC+10:30 Jay wrote: >>> >>>> I've now had two mixed surface rides with the Roadini, with a nice dash >>>> of trails thrown in (which is my favourite type of ride BTW). If I take >>>> it >>>> slow, the Roadini with its 43mm slick tires is fine; fun, actually. On >>>> the >>>> same day though I took out my Fargo with its Alt bars, 2.2" tires, and it >>>> was night-and-day. I can fly with the Fargo, corner hard with a lot of >>>> confidence. I could not do that with the Roadini (with my skills, or lack >>>> thereof). What's great though, is that on the Roadini I can ride almost >>>> anywhere, comfortably as I'm alternating between paved, unpaved, which is >>>> a >>>> lot of fun. When I want to hit my local trails (90% unpaved), I would >>>> definitely reach for the Fargo. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 19, 2025 at 8:14:01 PM UTC-4 Jay wrote: >>>> >>>>> I finally got to take the Roadini for a spin on my local trails, some >>>>> of them anyways. >>>>> >>>>> It has been cold recently and the snow and ice on the trail was >>>>> pervasive. One or two rain falls and some warmer temps in the last 5-10 >>>>> days, and with today being over 20C, I finally got to give this a go. I >>>>> dropped pressure on the 43mm GKSS down to 30R and 28F (I'm 160lbs). 90% >>>>> of >>>>> the ride was on the trails. I really noticed the difference with the >>>>> lower >>>>> pressure, from say 35-40psi which I would normally run these tires when >>>>> 90% >>>>> paved. It made the ride very smooth (not 2.2" tire smooth). What was >>>>> great was the comfort on the bike; riding trails only took a little of >>>>> that >>>>> away with the extra upper body effort required and more climbs/descents >>>>> and >>>>> posture that I don't often use on paved surfaces. I was surprised that >>>>> the >>>>> braking was more than adequate, and really enjoy being in the drops on >>>>> descents for extra control. The tires were probably the only downside, >>>>> partly due to my lack of skill. I had a bit of a rear-tire slide a >>>>> couple >>>>> of times on slick turns, but once I realized it was happening I rode more >>>>> cautiously rest of the time. I think with 42-45 aggressive tread this >>>>> bike >>>>> would be more than capable for the trails in my area. >>>>> >>>>> P.S. one of my other posts is about alt/swept bars that I'm putting on >>>>> my Salsa Fargo. I look forward to comparing performance between the >>>>> bikes, >>>>> and comfort (on these trails). >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, March 15, 2025 at 10:48:03 AM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I, too, think five is an ideal, manageable number so I’ve been >>>>>> settled on it for quite some time as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> That said, there remains an inclination to hoard spare mechanicals to >>>>>> keep them running, however, so I am not completely off the hook. A bit >>>>>> of >>>>>> the hoarding instinct I’ve embraced. If you’re patient and keep looking >>>>>> you >>>>>> can pick up the good stuff—known as NOS—our favorite acronym. >>>>>> >>>>>> And all but one are 9-speed so that keeps things simple. I found a >>>>>> guy quite a while ago now who had a seemingly bottomless supply of >>>>>> low-normal 9-speed derailers…so I kept buying. It got a little out of >>>>>> hand >>>>>> but that’s OK. I enjoy taking inventory and oogling over the results of >>>>>> my >>>>>> obsessions. These days most bike dealers are of no use to me, so I take >>>>>> care of myself. >>>>>> >>>>>> I do, however, pine for the days we could pop into the local shop to >>>>>> survey the beautiful, colorful steel hanging from the rafters and all >>>>>> those >>>>>> Campy boxes with the world stripes neatly inventoried. Not many of these >>>>>> around any more. Andy Muzi’s Yellow Jersey in Madison WI was one I could >>>>>> never pass by without stopping. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fortunately there’s a shop nearby that still comes close. The owner >>>>>> has a thing for titanium so he has a stunning collection (for sale) of >>>>>> obscure quirky bespoke ti bikes with wide tires, fenders and all the >>>>>> trimmings. As that does raise my blood pressure in a most enjoyable way >>>>>> I >>>>>> always drop in when I happen to ride by. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jock >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 12:09 PM Brady Smith <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've settled on five as my ideal stable: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) E-cargo bike. It's a car replacement. Gets the most miles of any >>>>>>> bike. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) My Roadini as general road bike. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) BMC Monster Cross as rando/light touring bike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4) La Cabra--in theory it's my gravel/forest road bike but >>>>>>> practically it's my city bike when I'm riding with my child or want to >>>>>>> carry stuff without e-assist. There's also a few mixed surface rides in >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> area for which it is pretty much perfect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5) Specialized Fuse Comp: I tried to make singletrack work on the La >>>>>>> Cabra for a while. It was fine, but this is much better. Plus I got it >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> 50% off. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I could let the La Cabra go and still be fine, but it's a fun bike >>>>>>> for what it is, and it adds a backup if for some reason the Fuse goes >>>>>>> down. >>>>>>> I've occasionally thought about a modern carbon road bike as I get more >>>>>>> into the local club scene, but I keep up just fine on the Roadini, and >>>>>>> other riders are always checking it out, which I enjoy. Other than the >>>>>>> cargo bike, I tend to use each of these very seasonally, so maintenance >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> rarely an issue for more than two bikes at a time. >>>>>>> On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 12:42:43 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The usual cycle goes like this: get disgusted with too many bikes; >>>>>>>> sell ‘em off and keep only the favorite; learn in 6 months that the >>>>>>>> favorite won’t do [insert special riding conditions here] as well as x >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> y, so buy a replacement or several. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Me, I don’t like excess, which is why I’ve decided that 3 bikes is >>>>>>>> the natural if not statutory minimum: road bike that is equipped to >>>>>>>> pedal >>>>>>>> as easily and comfortably and fast as possible on pavement; a road >>>>>>>> bike >>>>>>>> with carrying capacity, fenders, lights, and tires that can handle >>>>>>>> light >>>>>>>> dirt; and a dirt road bike that is nice on pavement. On this >>>>>>>> foundation you >>>>>>>> can expand in any direction you care to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This scenario avoids the “perfect bike” syndrome — unattractive, I >>>>>>>> agree — by having 3 perfect bikes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 3:14 PM Nicolas H <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lately I've actually been really intrigued by this idea of doing >>>>>>>>> less with more, which I guess is what we consider underbiking. I >>>>>>>>> guess the >>>>>>>>> idea of having the "perfect" bike seems both naive and a little >>>>>>>>> un-attractive for some reason. Maybe others can chime on this >>>>>>>>> indescribable >>>>>>>>> feeling I'm trying to articulate. On the other hand, I might just be >>>>>>>>> trying to talk myself out of buying an Atlantis. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Nic >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 5:38 PM John Bokman <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ahh...the One bike to rule them all. I've tried for years! My Sam >>>>>>>>>> can indeed fulfill pretty much all the riding I'm likely to do. This >>>>>>>>>> means >>>>>>>>>> city riding (commute and recreation), touring, and off-pavement >>>>>>>>>> riding >>>>>>>>>> that isn't gnarly (anything requiring more than the 43mm Bruce >>>>>>>>>> Gordon Rock >>>>>>>>>> n' Road tires I use for off-roading). BUT: my limitation is >>>>>>>>>> fenderability. >>>>>>>>>> Here in Western Oregon, I like fenders, most of the year. My Sam >>>>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>>>> accept 43mm tires with fenders...And I don't want to commute nor >>>>>>>>>> tour >>>>>>>>>> without them. Thus, my thoughts of a second bike. If I lived in >>>>>>>>>> Riv's >>>>>>>>>> locale, I think I could pretty much do it all on Sam. But, I don't. >>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>> surprised you aren't be-fendered in your neck of the woods. Must be >>>>>>>>>> drier >>>>>>>>>> up there than I thought. Or your tolerance for slop is greater than >>>>>>>>>> mine. >>>>>>>>>> Either way, good on you, Jay. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> Oregon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 8, 2025 at 6:48:26 PM UTC-8 Jay wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lot's of great info shared - thank you! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My takeaway so far is that the nature of "unpaved" varies and >>>>>>>>>>> that my Roadini, in comparison to my Fargo, will win some, and lose >>>>>>>>>>> some. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As an example, I've been riding my Fargo throughout the winter, >>>>>>>>>>> mainly with 2.2" tubeless gravel tires on paved roads. Some of >>>>>>>>>>> these roads >>>>>>>>>>> have had work done in the past 6 months and the paving is awful. >>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>> Roadini is so much smoother over these roads (Roadini with 43 GKSS, >>>>>>>>>>> tubed). The frame flex is noticeable, in a really good way. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My local mixed-surface trails, which are mainly crushed >>>>>>>>>>> limestone, with technical sections, is where I'm hoping the Roadini >>>>>>>>>>> will do >>>>>>>>>>> well. I've only taken the Fargo on these trails because that's why >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> bought the bike in the first place. It does awesome on the trails, >>>>>>>>>>> and I'm >>>>>>>>>>> moving around a lot on the bike, so the bike has fine been fine. >>>>>>>>>>> But on >>>>>>>>>>> long road rides in the winter, not so good. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I still dream of the Roadini being the one bike to rule them all >>>>>>>>>>> (my *them*), and having like 4 wheel sets! figured I could have >>>>>>>>>>> my two >>>>>>>>>>> existing wheels: 43mm GKSS for most road rides, which includes >>>>>>>>>>> doses of >>>>>>>>>>> trails; 30mm fast rubber on dura-ace wheels for road rides with >>>>>>>>>>> friends; >>>>>>>>>>> and then I would add, knobbies for trail rides, and a set of winter >>>>>>>>>>> studded >>>>>>>>>>> tires. I would be reluctant to ride her much in winter due to the >>>>>>>>>>> salty >>>>>>>>>>> roads (even though I clean my Fargo after every ride), plus the rim >>>>>>>>>>> brakes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 3, 2025 at 5:53:20 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> TRAIL: >>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly the biggest factor has been cockpit. You are correct >>>>>>>>>>>> the geo is almost identical. I’ve never made a 1:1 comparison >>>>>>>>>>>> between my >>>>>>>>>>>> two bikes with same cockpit, but the drop bars I had on Sam are >>>>>>>>>>>> now on Leo. >>>>>>>>>>>> When I had only one bike, it was Sam, and I would switch from >>>>>>>>>>>> drops to >>>>>>>>>>>> other bars too often, and thus decided to get a second bike. On >>>>>>>>>>>> technical >>>>>>>>>>>> trails with drop bars the Sam felt great, until descents get >>>>>>>>>>>> steep, then >>>>>>>>>>>> it’s sketchy. Now that it has Billie bars (I've also used Simworks >>>>>>>>>>>> getaround and ahearne MAP) those same descents are fun. The >>>>>>>>>>>> geometry of >>>>>>>>>>>> both bikes can handle trail riding if you are skilled and >>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable with >>>>>>>>>>>> that stuff. Biggest impact to the trail riding experience will be >>>>>>>>>>>> cockpit >>>>>>>>>>>> and wheel/tire choice. Also if you weigh 175lbs or more and only >>>>>>>>>>>> want one >>>>>>>>>>>> of these two bikes, I’d say Sam all day. Roadini flexes a lot for >>>>>>>>>>>> me. I >>>>>>>>>>>> don’t think I knew what flex was until pushing myself and my >>>>>>>>>>>> Roadini. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ROAD: >>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t have any carbon or aluminum road bike experience to >>>>>>>>>>>> compare to. Compared to 80s-90s steel road bikes with 25mm tires, >>>>>>>>>>>> both Sam >>>>>>>>>>>> and Leo are Cadillacs. Super comfy. Road manners are most affected >>>>>>>>>>>> by tires >>>>>>>>>>>> and cockpit. I’ve done centuries on both and they rule. Again I >>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>> stress that since the geo is the same, I’d consider the Roadini if >>>>>>>>>>>> you have >>>>>>>>>>>> a slimmer build, and if you’re closer to 200lbs I’d go Sam all >>>>>>>>>>>> day. The >>>>>>>>>>>> “road performance” of Roadini was negligible in comparison. I >>>>>>>>>>>> consider my >>>>>>>>>>>> Roadini 'faster' only because it has drops, lighter wheels, >>>>>>>>>>>> smoother tires, >>>>>>>>>>>> no racks, minimal baggage, just less weight overall. Never weighed >>>>>>>>>>>> either >>>>>>>>>>>> bike. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> OBVIOUS: >>>>>>>>>>>> The trails that felt sketchy on my Sam w/drop bars do not get >>>>>>>>>>>> ridden by me on the Roadini, at all. Yes the Roadini is way more >>>>>>>>>>>> trail >>>>>>>>>>>> capable than most dedicated road bikes, because the geo is chill >>>>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>>>> tires (on mine) are fat (42 Cavas). The bike does have limits, >>>>>>>>>>>> though, and >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't need to push those limits because I have a Hillborne. >>>>>>>>>>>> Despite the >>>>>>>>>>>> matching geometry I would hastily rate the Sam [60/40 Road/Trail] >>>>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>>>> Leo [80/20 Road/Trail] >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 3, 2025 at 2:22:13 PM UTC-8 [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting thread. I own a 57 Sam set up with drop bars / >>>>>>>>>>>>> 42mm gravel kings. I had the opportunity to build a lugged 54 >>>>>>>>>>>>> roadini, I’m >>>>>>>>>>>>> luckily on the cusp of both sizes. What persuaded me to follow >>>>>>>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>>>>>>> despite the quite obvious similarities, was the ability to size >>>>>>>>>>>>> down. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to a more road build. Will report back once I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have some >>>>>>>>>>>>> riding done, super stoked. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Franco Rinaldi >>>>>>>>>>>>> c: 646.403.0661 <(646)%20403-0661> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2025, at 5:00 PM, John Bokman <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have more or less the same questions as Mike in BK. I ride >>>>>>>>>>>>> a 2017 58cm Sam, and the equivalent sized Roadini (a 57cm as it >>>>>>>>>>>>> happens) >>>>>>>>>>>>> has almost identical numbers. The number I'm most interested in >>>>>>>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>>>>>>> the front center. But they don't list those stats anymore in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> geo >>>>>>>>>>>>> charts? From email exchange with Will, the two frames will ride >>>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>> similarly. I wouldn't be surprised if the tubing is indeed >>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly >>>>>>>>>>>>> different - or not - but I'm not sure if I'd notice it. What I >>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>> notice, however, is the front center measurement; Ideally I would >>>>>>>>>>>>> want more >>>>>>>>>>>>> than I currently get with my Sam (61.8cm, according to Bike >>>>>>>>>>>>> Insights). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oregon >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 3, 2025 at 8:17:38 AM UTC-8 Mike in BK wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brenton, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a 57 Roadini and a 57 Sam from a recent MIT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation, their geos looks very similar (like, very). With the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam being >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more stout and a little longer, how would you compare the rides? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interested >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the feel on the road and capabilities on non-paved roads >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which you've >>>>>>>>>>>>>> already described a bit here). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 11:39:25 AM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I ride my Roadini all over. I'm on a 57 as well. 6'1" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185lbs. I have 32H dyad hoops. Only used Ultradynamico Cava 42s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have thrown the rear wheel out of true after getting "air" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off some roots on familiar trails. That's about as crazy as I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get, and I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learned not to beat on it the way I can do with my Sam. Sam has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 36 hole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atlas wheels. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 6:10:35 AM UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to answers to this. I have a Hilsen set up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for road riding, with slicks and a dark-boston-winter-inspired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dynamo, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love it -- it's fast and so comfortable -- and have no plans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to make any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Except maybe to Paul brakes -- big for the wallet.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thinking of getting a Roadini or an Atlantis next, for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trail riding but also, sometimes, commuting. On first glance, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it seems like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Atlantis would be the smart choice, but I like the geo of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the roadini >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better, like that it's a little lighter, like that the lugged >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version seems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more rack friendly, and I'm just not convinced that a somewhat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experienced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (def not expert) rider needs anything bigger than a 43/45 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired unless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he/she is hitting mountain trails. (For which a mountain bike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be better.) I have a crust bombora, which I would gift to my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> son, and on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all kinds of trails I've never felt any ride-feel difference >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between a 42 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tire and a 50. So curious about others' experiences. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jay, thanks for asking this questions, and as far as tire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advice, I really love the soma cazaderos for what you're >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> describing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:50:23 AM UTC-5 Jay wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the 2023 Roadini, size 57. I LOVE the bike and how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it feels, every time I get on it after a long break (riding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another bike on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snowy/salty roads) I'm reminded of just how good it fits, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handles, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feels. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking of adding a third wheel set, for mainly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unpaved riding (more below). *I'm curious as to your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience with this bike on gravel roads, trails, etc.* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I realize bike configs will differ, as to the specific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> riding conditions, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but to me this is not a road bike like the ones I've had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously, so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to push the envelope and see what terrain I can ride, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comfortably. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Recap*: Bought it a year ago and had two wheel sets from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the start, one with Dura-Ace wheels I already had, and 30mm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tires for road >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rides with a friend, who is faster than me (me and the bike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can keep up! so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it has replaced my road bike); the other with new 105 hubs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and H plus son >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> archetype rims with 43mm GKSS tires for every other ride, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which includes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rail trails, short sections of gravel paths connecting roads, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 100% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paved rides when on my own (I like the added comfort and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versatility over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 30mm tires). Swapping wheels is so easy, pop the quick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRP levers and on the other one on the brake callipers, swap >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheels, barrel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjuster on the calliper to adjust pads to rim, done. I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always playing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records when messing around with the bike, and this is a "one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> song" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjustment lol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I was to add a third wheel set, I think I would want go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tubeless, with supple 43-45mm tires with an aggressive tread. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maximize comfort and also have a tire that can corner on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loose gravel, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride comfortably over choppy gravel roads (on longer mixed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface rides). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The 43mm GKSS tires are great, and I run that at 30psi if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mixed surface, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they lack comfort on chunky terrain and don't handle my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twisty gravel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trails very well (where as my Salsa Fargo with 2.2" tubeless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tires, smooth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> centre / knobby corners, is great). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking for your input about this bike's capability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unpaved/off-road, our experience, and recommendations for TLR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rims, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tires as described above. 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