My one and only experience with Blue Lug (in May of this year) was I placed 
my order, sat back expecting to get bars in a couple weeks, and be shocked 
to see them arrive in just a few days.  Like someone else said, faster than 
many items arrive that originated in the US.

Dan S
a small town near Madison, WI

On Wednesday, June 25, 2025 at 3:51:52 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, very good to know!
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 2:50 PM Jim M. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There is still a de minimis exemption for goods less than $800, unless 
>> it's direct from China. But I know some people who have ordered bikes from 
>> China who never got a tariff bill either.
>>
>> jim m
>> walnut creek
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 25, 2025 at 1:40:00 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> My brother recently received 2 drop handlebars that arrived within 5 
>>> days of the order for a total of $147 including shipping, damned cheap, and 
>>> no sign of any tariff. He wondered if the US govt is organized enough to 
>>> track and bill every little transaction. I guess we’ll see. 
>>>
>>> With the remarkably low price and quick shipping I think I’ll look more 
>>> closely at Blue Lug for my own bike purchases and chance the tariff — just 
>>> looked it up: 10%. ~$160 or so for that transaction would not be bad at 
>>> all. A similar purchase from say Rivendell would cost much more for the 
>>> bars and probably more too for the shipping.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 9:24 AM 'Paul Rhodes' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> " Import tax, custom duties, VAT or clearance fee will be charged when 
>>>> your order has reached your country. We ARE NOT responsible for those 
>>>> costs."
>>>>
>>>> Folks who've ordered recently from BL, can you say how much you paid in 
>>>> these extra taxes? I don't love placing an order not knowing the total 
>>>> cost 
>>>> of the package...
>>>>
>>>> Paul 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, May 20, 2025 at 1:00:04 PM UTC-4 [email protected] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Blue Lug doesn’t mess around. I’ve ordered straight from them a 
>>>>> handful of times and it was always a breeze. Super fast shipping from 
>>>>> Japan 
>>>>> to Tampa. 
>>>>>
>>>>> -Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 10:17 AM 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm in the KC area and just had my first blue lug experience. 
>>>>>> Shipping was super fast, within a week I think. I just got 4 Grateful 
>>>>>> Dead 
>>>>>> cycling caps and a bear spoke reflector. The caps are excellent quality. 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> expect to somehow have a 24% customs bill, which should be the tariff on 
>>>>>> Japan, if my research was correct. The caps were also made in the USA. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peace,
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 12:24:39 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It might depend on where you live in the US. I am in the Greater LA 
>>>>>>> area and placed an order for a Choco bar on a Thursday a couple of 
>>>>>>> weeks 
>>>>>>> ago, and it showed up the following Monday. A large order might make a 
>>>>>>> difference, too
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 5:38:45 PM UTC-7 Jim Whorton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chiming in because I had a really good Blue Lug experience this 
>>>>>>>> week.  I put in an order on Saturday, May 3 (New York time) and it 
>>>>>>>> arrived 
>>>>>>>> Thursday, May 8 by "FedEx - International Connect Plus [2-3 business 
>>>>>>>> day 
>>>>>>>> after shipped]," which was the cheapest shipping option.  Nicely 
>>>>>>>> packed and 
>>>>>>>> they put in a note saying that it was Golden Week in Japan, "a period 
>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>> extended national holidays."  I got some nice handlebars, a stem, and 
>>>>>>>> small 
>>>>>>>> parts.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim Whorton in Rochester, NY  
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 6:27:46 PM UTC-4 [email protected] 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is correct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> P. W.
>>>>>>>>> ~
>>>>>>>>> (917) 514-2207
>>>>>>>>> ~
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 11, 2025, at 2:28 PM, Patrick Moore <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do I understand you to say that FedEx has corporate operations to 
>>>>>>>>> pick up packages and manage original customer contact CS, but farms 
>>>>>>>>> out 
>>>>>>>>> last mile delivery to contractors who are the weak point in on-time 
>>>>>>>>> delivery and record keeping?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank God that USPS still seems reliable, and with their new (ish) 
>>>>>>>>> ground service not too extravagantly expensive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 2:09 PM P W <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know if this is widely known but FedEx also don’t run 
>>>>>>>>>> their own delivery programs and haven’t for some time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They license out the FedEx brand to external contractors for 
>>>>>>>>>> deliveries. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It’s just a random guy a lot of the time, with a Fed Ex logo’d 
>>>>>>>>>> van. Most delivery drivers work as independent contractors, or for 
>>>>>>>>>> another 
>>>>>>>>>> company basically. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you look closely it’ll say so on the van.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So FedEx offers great rates to businesses, and great customer 
>>>>>>>>>> service, and FedEx themselves come and pick up your products. So all 
>>>>>>>>>> might 
>>>>>>>>>> appear well at the business end. But on the consumor/receiver end, 
>>>>>>>>>> it can 
>>>>>>>>>> be absolute chaos.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have seen SOME THINGS, let me tell you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know of several companies that have moved their business to 
>>>>>>>>>> FedEx thinking they’re getting a better deal, only to switch back 
>>>>>>>>>> because 
>>>>>>>>>> the customer service issues on the other end don’t make it worth 
>>>>>>>>>> their 
>>>>>>>>>> savings.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So try not to blame Blue Lug. Or not entirely.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Businesses, especially smaller ones, are all under the pinch 
>>>>>>>>>> right now. So they’re looking at ways to make their operations run 
>>>>>>>>>> more 
>>>>>>>>>> cost effectively. In this case I would imagine they were promised 
>>>>>>>>>> the world 
>>>>>>>>>> by FedEx and that made sense to them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would direct your frustrations and anger at the bigger 
>>>>>>>>>> businesses that swindle and scrimp and cut costs at everyone else 
>>>>>>>>>> expense, 
>>>>>>>>>> to maximize profits. Who are gung-ho in reducing labor and workforce 
>>>>>>>>>> costs. 
>>>>>>>>>> Who don’t have employees deliver their goods so they don’t have to 
>>>>>>>>>> worry 
>>>>>>>>>> about unions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And, maybe, the guy in charge of tariffs making that all even 
>>>>>>>>>> worse.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (I’ve never heard anything other than lovely things about the 
>>>>>>>>>> people at Blue Lug, and I would imagine the poster before me that 
>>>>>>>>>> mentioned 
>>>>>>>>>> translation issues is onto something. If FedEx lost your package, it 
>>>>>>>>>> is on 
>>>>>>>>>> FedEx not Blue Lug to issue the refund. They’d be out the money just 
>>>>>>>>>> as 
>>>>>>>>>> much as you, otherwise. I wouldn’t trust anything a Fed Ex employee 
>>>>>>>>>> told 
>>>>>>>>>> me. They have no idea at all what happened to your package and why. 
>>>>>>>>>> That 
>>>>>>>>>> much I guarantee.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P. W.
>>>>>>>>>> ~
>>>>>>>>>> (917) 514-2207
>>>>>>>>>> ~
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 11, 2025, at 11:47 AM, Patrick Moore <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Twice I’ve ordered things from Great Britain and had the DHL van 
>>>>>>>>>> pull up to my house within 48 hours (in one case I think it was 36 
>>>>>>>>>> hours) 
>>>>>>>>>> after hitting the “buy” button. Amazing. The last, 36-hour (I think) 
>>>>>>>>>> delivery was for a Rab anorak, and the earlier one was from SJS, 
>>>>>>>>>> IIRC — 
>>>>>>>>>> both well pre-tariff.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 5:02 AM Mike Rossi <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> … sheesh, I miss DHL. All my orders used to leave Japan and end 
>>>>>>>>>>> up in Cleveland, Ohio the next day, and then on my front porch the 
>>>>>>>>>>> day 
>>>>>>>>>>> after that. The shipping cost more, but, to me, was worth it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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