Joe,

I agree about the paint but I don't recall ever seeing any Riv with plain
lugs.  There are/were early ones around that don't have the first RBW crown,
as the initial testing revealed a flaw and some frames went out with HJ
crowns.  Even the early Rivs had the Sachs designed lugs to the best of my
knowledge.  Most curious...

Doug


On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Joe Bartoe <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I hate to disagree....well, actually I kind of like to disagree. Anyway,
> if you look around, you'll find that there are plenty of early Rivs that
> have paint jobs that differ markedly from the current Riv aesthetic. I
> distinctly remember one that was sort of a limey green metallic with yell
> head tube and lugfill. And no, Joe Bell would never paint a non-Riv frame
> and then put Riv decals on it. Also, after the first paintjob, Grant/Riv no
> longer controls the paint job style choices so if it's a second paintjob,
> that would also explain the difference.
>
> I am a little confused by the poster not knowing the model, though. It
> would seem that any Riv owner would know that. Then again, an early Riv
> would likely not have had a model name as they started out kind of simply.
> It might have just been a road frame.
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:20:58 -0700
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay
>
> To: [email protected]
>
> I agree, very odd.  Nothing about it says Rivendell except the decals, but
> JB wouldn't refinish a non-Riv with those decals would he?
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:58 PM, trevor segraves <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
> Almost forgot
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2emhsfw
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> *From:* trevor segraves <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Sun, July 11, 2010 1:31:16 PM
> *Subject:* Odd small Riv on Ebay
>
> Simple lugs, Henry James crown, granted it is a small frame, but nothing on
> this bike says Riv to me accept the decals and badge, even the water bottle
> bosses seam oddly placed.
> Any thoughts?
> Trevor
>
>

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