They almost look like Bridgestone lugs.  I wonder if the head lugs were 
abbreviated because of the bike's small size?

Steve

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay


I agree with Doug, those lugs looks very simple for an early
Rivendell.

IIRC the Road Standards had the Richard Sachs designed lugs other
models hand different, simplier (but not his simple?) lugs.

Angus

On 11 July, 23:16, Doug Van Cleve <dvancl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> I agree about the paint but I don't recall ever seeing any Riv with plain
> lugs.  There are/were early ones around that don't have the first RBW crown,
> as the initial testing revealed a flaw and some frames went out with HJ
> crowns.  Even the early Rivs had the Sachs designed lugs to the best of my
> knowledge.  Most curious...
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Joe Bartoe <jbar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >  I hate to disagree....well, actually I kind of like to disagree. Anyway,
> > if you look around, you'll find that there are plenty of early Rivs that
> > have paint jobs that differ markedly from the current Riv aesthetic. I
> > distinctly remember one that was sort of a limey green metallic with yell
> > head tube and lugfill. And no, Joe Bell would never paint a non-Riv frame
> > and then put Riv decals on it. Also, after the first paintjob, Grant/Riv no
> > longer controls the paint job style choices so if it's a second paintjob,
> > that would also explain the difference.
>
> > I am a little confused by the poster not knowing the model, though. It
> > would seem that any Riv owner would know that. Then again, an early Riv
> > would likely not have had a model name as they started out kind of simply.
> > It might have just been a road frame.
>
> > Joe
>
> > ------------------------------
> > From: dvancl...@gmail.com
> > Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:20:58 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay
>
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > I agree, very odd.  Nothing about it says Rivendell except the decals, but
> > JB wouldn't refinish a non-Riv with those decals would he?
>
> > Doug
>
> > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:58 PM, trevor segraves <hoont...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > Almost forgot
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/2emhsfw
>
> > ----- Forwarded Message ----
> > *From:* trevor segraves <hoont...@yahoo.com>
> > *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > *Sent:* Sun, July 11, 2010 1:31:16 PM
> > *Subject:* Odd small Riv on Ebay
>
> > Simple lugs, Henry James crown, granted it is a small frame, but nothing on
> > this bike says Riv to me accept the decals and badge, even the water bottle
> > bosses seam oddly placed.
> > Any thoughts?
> > Trevor- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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