"On that subject, the current Riv lineup seems a bit bland to me. No, 
double TT's, no digitubes, no rainbow tubes. It's lacking that whimsy it 
used to have. Other than the Platypus, all the current frame kind of look 
the same. And kind of do the same? Even the "single speed" is now basically 
the same as ever other bike. Where has fanatical Rivs gone?? "

I tend to agree on this one Ben. I have 2 Riv's, on from early 2000's and a 
2018 Clem H. I like the old ones better for some reason. Maybe I just like 
discontinued things, but the older ones had a bit more "magic" to them. Now 
every frame seems to be slowly morphing into one another - the Atlantis, 
Appa and even Roaduno now look almost identical minus small differences. 
Miss the double TT, swoopy tubed bikes for sure. Still beautiful frames 
though.

On Tuesday, September 9, 2025 at 10:50:07 AM UTC-4 [email protected] 
wrote:

> I think the first time I saw the Hunqapillar for sale at Rivendell the 
> framesets were $2600, which I could not imagine paying at that time. Of 
> course, the fact that they were made here in WI at Waterford also matters 
> to me. Thank you for your story of getting the Hunqapillar!
> Randy in WI
>
> On Tuesday, September 9, 2025 at 8:48:40 AM UTC-5 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> You used to be able to get a pre-owned bombadil for a song.  They were 
>> also some of the earliest 650b bikes when that became a thing.  I joined 
>> riv when they grey bean hunqs were current, but opted for a sam h. at 
>> $990!? since $1875 seemed unobtainable for a bike at the time, and I was 
>> sort of in between sizes on a hunq.  I did eventually buy a used 650b 
>> hunqapillar which was a grail bike and split the difference between the 54 
>> and 58 of the 700c model.  To me, the 650b wheel size harkened back to the 
>> early bombadil.
>>
>> On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 5:42:49 AM UTC-5 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: CEDB54EF-5AE9-4F6D-9F34-D6632E974BA2.jpeg]I think Ben hit the 
>>> nail on the head - ‘the heart wants what the heart wants’. I love my 2TT 
>>> Appaloosa, the ride quality and the aesthetics. I don’t need a Rivendell 
>>> with more tire clearance, but really love the two bikes I am looking for. 
>>> Thank you for the responses and opinions - I appreciate this forum.
>>> Randy in WI
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 1:02:16 AM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a 62 Hunqapillar and a 64 Bombadil. Ryan is correct, they're 
>>>> essentially the same bike. 
>>>>
>>>> But.... the heart wants what the heart wants. I can completely respect 
>>>> Randy's decision: maybe he doesn't like the black and cream of the 
>>>> Bombadil 
>>>> or its horizontal TT. Maybe he's after that whimsy of the digitube or the 
>>>> rainbow tube those ~6 year old Atlantis's. 
>>>>
>>>> On that subject, the current Riv lineup seems a bit bland to me. No, 
>>>> double TT's, no digitubes, no rainbow tubes. It's lacking that whimsy it 
>>>> used to have. Other than the Platypus, all the current frame kind of look 
>>>> the same. And kind of do the same? Even the "single speed" is now 
>>>> basically 
>>>> the same as ever other bike. Where has fanatical Rivs gone?? 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 8:46:28 PM UTC-7 [email protected] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2025-09-07 at 8.45.01 PM.png]Found it: 
>>>>> https://notfine.com/rivreader/RR43.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 8:43:08 PM UTC-7 Tyler Ryan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't find the exact issue right now but I saw it mentioned in an 
>>>>>> old Riv Reader that the Hunqapillar was essentially a less fancy 
>>>>>> Bombadil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 12:18:04 PM UTC-7 
>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for the suggestion.I’m sure the Bombadil is a great bike, 
>>>>>>> but I’m not really interested in it.
>>>>>>> Randy in WI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 10:54:14 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why not buy that bombadil on ebay? I think it’s a great deal 
>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 9:44:38 AM UTC-4 
>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know this is a long shot, but thought I would try one more time, 
>>>>>>>>> having missed on a couple earlier this year. Would prefer a frameset. 
>>>>>>>>> Would 
>>>>>>>>> entertain the thought of a 62cm Atlantis with the rainbow tube. 
>>>>>>>>> Basically I 
>>>>>>>>> love my Appaloosa and would like to pair it with a Rivendell with 
>>>>>>>>> more tire 
>>>>>>>>> clearance. Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> Randy in WI
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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