Hello Max,

Looks like the bike will be a joy to ride. It should clean up nicely. My 
tire vote is also for the RH rat trap pass, EL. I have them on my '82 
Stumpy which is built up as a basket bike, smooth riding. I have 
Ultradynamico  cava race on '90 Stumpy that I have build up as a gravel 
bike and the rat trap pass are way nicer.

JohnS

On Wednesday, November 19, 2025 at 1:57:22 PM UTC-5 Bill S wrote:

> Rat Trap Pass or bust. Congrats on the purchase!
>
> On Wednesday, November 19, 2025 at 1:38:45 PM UTC-5 Dave S wrote:
>
>> Congrats on the pick up.  I saw this on ebay, saw it sold and then saw it 
>> relisted on Facebook.  I assume this facebook ad is a scam so im posting it 
>> as a warning to others.
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/share/1ADZ5d5qJR/       <---SCAM AD
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 19, 2025 at 12:41:39 PM UTC-5 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Max, what a rad find. The frame is stunning. Bet you can find some fun, 
>>> matching accessories like Blue Lug's Koma light, chainring bolts. etc etc.
>>>
>>> As for tires, I had a solid experience with RH naches pass with the 
>>> endurance casing. Those were some of the best tires I've ridden. They won't 
>>> be as plush as RTPs but they are smoooooth and fast-rolling. And their 
>>> durability will give you peace of mind (not 1 flat using them over my 3 
>>> months of daily use). 
>>> Now that I'm talking them up, I kind of regret selling them for 
>>> continental racekings....
>>>
>>> James--Richmond Va
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 11:49 AM maxcr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned in the CL thread, I was the lucky buyer of the AR from 
>>>> eBay.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a bad photo from my basement last night after picking it up. I 
>>>> promise better photos at some point in the future:
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_8327.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> I've always been curious about the early models, the 26 wheels on large 
>>>> frame with a tighter geo, canti posts and great tire clearance made it 
>>>> super appealing to me. The price was fair, larger ARs don't come up for 
>>>> sale often.
>>>>
>>>> I'm really happy that my hunch was correct, it's a 59! Which is the 
>>>> goldilocks size for me and more appropriate than 57 or 58. 
>>>>
>>>> The seller said that the owner was a doctor who recently passed away 
>>>> and his wife has been slowly selling his bikes through a friend who used 
>>>> to 
>>>> work at their LBS (he has a couple of tandems, a Jack Taylor, a Ti Seven 
>>>> and others that he's going to list). The bike has the original owners name 
>>>> in the top tube, which is kinda cool, to keep the legacy going for him.
>>>>
>>>> Now the details. The bike is an early model. Based on the serial 
>>>> (JS0030) and the JB in the chain stay, it's a Joe Starck /Joe Bell combo 
>>>> from 2000. It's also number 30. 30 what? I don't know, the 30th 
>>>> All-Rounder 
>>>> ever built? Maybe.
>>>>
>>>> The metallic blue paint with the cream head tube is just amazing even 
>>>> after 25 years. There are some minor blemishes and chips as you would 
>>>> expect from a bike that has been ridden, but it's really in top condition.
>>>>
>>>> I will probably ride it as is for a bit, but have plans to rebuild it. 
>>>> The Ultegra group with brifters isn't what I want. I will probably keep 
>>>> the 
>>>> drops (they say N Grand Randoneur which I assume is a Nitto noodle 
>>>> variant) 
>>>> but need to see if they will work for me. I also plan to swap out the 
>>>> drivetrain - probably put on a NOS Ritchey Logic crankset that I have or a 
>>>> TA Carmina that I recently acquired paired with an XTR rapid rise RD (or 
>>>> maybe an OM-1?). 
>>>>
>>>> For tires, I'd love your thoughts. I'm thinking of RH Rat Trap Pass 
>>>> tires, unless you convince me that the Naches Pass or the Simworks Homage 
>>>> are a better option. I might want to keep it fendered, not sure... but 
>>>> these fenders won't clear a really wide tire.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, please offer your suggestions as I rethink this build. It won't 
>>>> happen until next year given my time availability and other projects in 
>>>> the 
>>>> pipeline. 
>>>>
>>>> As you can see my downsizing isn't going well. I think I'm up to 11 
>>>> with the latest purchase of that time capsule brown Saluki and this AR. At 
>>>> some point some will have to go, but I have a feeling that the AR is a 
>>>> keeper.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Max in Boston
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