My 2 were over a year...Road @2300 ordered Aug 2000 and delivered in October 2001 when Curt Goodrich and Joe Starck were the 2 builders and my Mixte ($3500) ordered Dec 2015 and delivered early 2017, February, I think. It's possible the last of the customs were around 5K but I could be wrong. But , given the level of craftsmanship, I don't think that was an unreasonable asking price...and since tall frames don't pop up that much, that fellow might well get his asking price...and as Corwin says...MN has his own frames to build. I think the wait for MN-built Roadeos was well over a year
On Wednesday, November 26, 2025 at 1:22:25 AM UTC-6 Corwin Zechar wrote: > I can easily believe the wait for this custom was that long. I put the > deposit on my first custom in 2006. The frame was delivered in 2009. > > The contributing factors determining the length of the wait for a custom > Rivendell were the number of frames in the queue and Mark Nobilette's > workload - he has his own custom frames to build, etc. > > Regards, > > > Corwin > > On Tuesday, November 25, 2025 at 4:20:00 PM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote: > >> I can’t believe the wait was that long in 2005. My last custom was around >> 2002 or 2003 and it was nowhere near long. I remember Douglas Brooks and I >> ordered bikes at the same time. Also that $5000 price is really nuts >> although I don’t know what the asking price was in 2005 but I think my >> frame was about 17 or $1800 and it was a 56 cm With a 56 cm top tube now >> owned by Fred Craven. >> >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 5:38 PM Michael Baquerizo <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> for that price, the holding back of the pedals and kickstand (really?) >>> etc is nutty. >>> >>> On Monday, November 24, 2025 at 9:26:09 AM UTC-5 matt miller wrote: >>> >>>> Not hot deal. Mid-00s custom big boy >>>> <https://newyork.craigslist.org/brx/bik/d/new-york-rivendell-full-custom-steel/7897941702.html> >>>> >>>> for all the monies in NYC. >>>> A really pretty frame. Love the color. >>>> [image: 00u0u_6zskNUwSQGp_0ak07K_1200x900.jpg] >>>> >>>> On Thursday, November 20, 2025 at 10:44:05 AM UTC-6 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hot deal for a Rambouillet in Tacoma. >>>>> <https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/tacoma-rivendell-rambouillet/7896800417.html> >>>>> So >>>>> many tall riders in this world! >>>>> On Wednesday, November 19, 2025 at 8:42:46 AM UTC-8 Tom Goodmann wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Congratulations, Max! Glad this grail bike went to someone here. (But >>>>>> I still wish I'd been alert enough to see it!). Looking forward to >>>>>> whatever >>>>>> you might share of the bike. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> Madison, WI >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, November 19, 2025 at 10:22:05 AM UTC-6 >>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So covetous of that AR, but I'm stoked someone here picked it up! >>>>>>> Congrats, Max! It sure is a stunner. Love the bigger-size frame with >>>>>>> 26" >>>>>>> wheels. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brian >>>>>>> Lexington KY >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 11:15 AM maxcr <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Guilty, 🙋 I got the AR from eBay... I couldn't pass the >>>>>>>> opportunity to get what for me is a grail bike. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It was semi local, so I picked it up last night and it's stunning - >>>>>>>> it has certainly been used, but I love that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll start a thread with more details. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Max >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 18, 2025 at 4:06:39 PM UTC-5 Danny wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Did someone on the list score that 2000 All Rounder that was on >>>>>>>>> eBay earlier today?! https://www.ebay.com/itm/177586781595 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 13, 2025 at 8:55:13 PM UTC-6 >>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Reasonably priced... >>>>>>>>>> 58CM Rivendell Rambouillet, toyo made classic - $1,300 (San >>>>>>>>>> Francisco) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-58cm-rivendell/7895366862.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: 00101_GJozoc5C6e_0t20CI_1200x900.jpg] >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 12 November 2025 at 08:29:41 UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm selling a beautiful mauve Rivendell Road in Oakland: >>>>>>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/oakland-rivendell-road/7889792667.html >>>>>>>>>>> hmu if you're interested or have questions >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 7:48 AM Christopher Young < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yet another nice looking Clem in too small a size for me...and >>>>>>>>>>>> this one is in NM!!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lascruces.craigslist.org/bik/d/tyrone-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-bicycle/7889979449.html >>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like a great deal. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Young >>>>>>>>>>>> ABQ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2025 at 8:53:37 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This one has been sitting on marketplace for a while. No >>>>>>>>>>>>> relation to seller. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: 565828137_1514743826524306_5816045031896081385_n.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 63 CM Toyo/Waterford? Rivendell A Homer Hilsen Frameset >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kildeer, IL >>>>>>>>>>>>> $750 >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/680394757948816 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2025 at 8:04:27 PM UTC-6 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: 577178816_2289798254851595_7667091625105435159_n.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clem L >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 52cm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leesburg, VA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $1,995 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2042532603159109 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2025 at 5:02:24 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great deal on a XL Susie 59cm in Eugene OR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/eugene-rivendell-xl-susie-longbolt/7894954721.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 6, 2025 at 10:19:18 AM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very decked out 50cm Roadini in Santa Monica, CA. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/share/1CMWr33tRr/?mibextid=wwXIfr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2025 at 4:05 PM Guy Jett <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I LOVE seeing the Brooks saddle mounted with the clamp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AHEAD of the seatpost. Personally it's because I now know I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one who has done this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I bought my '74 Raleigh Competition in about 1976 as my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first serious bike. It's a little too large in the top tube >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so this was my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still have the bike after all these years though lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes, mostly in the spirit of the original components >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (tl/dr follows) -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original TA 3-pin crank replaced by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TA Cyclotourist (49-44-26) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> half- step+granny for touring; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Huret Jubilee rear mech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a Huret Duo-Par; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huret down tube shifters with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shimano bar-ends; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 700c tubulars with 27-inch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clinchers; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hubs and bottom bracket with early >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Wood units; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original Normandy freewheel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a Regina, then the current Sun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tour Ultra 6; and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An original model Blackburn rear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rack. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, yes, I'm still running the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original Huret Jubilee front mech! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GAJett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2025, 11:28 AM matt miller < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of beautiful orange paint jobs (from Joe Bell), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> albeit from a sparse FB profile: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/share/1DLsP7hCKo/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 570076065_1727655421251520_1937958512801350314_n.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 1:09:55 PM UTC-6 matt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miller wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing that Roadeo. That rust color sure is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The owner posted on a Riv FB last month, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jump-started my Roadeo curiosity. He didn't post price at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the time, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told me $1600 with the Grand Cru brakset. The photos this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time are much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better because it looked red before. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was confused on sizing because I thought it was a 61" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which is what he told me), but the invoice in the link >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says 63". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 11:01:17 AM UTC-6 Jamie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beautiful Rodeo in NJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1791722254828234/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ae0f0c688-feb4-4b57-a671-96b525ee5494 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Product photo of Rivendell "Roadeo" frame 61cm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> center to center] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 11:31:18 AM UTC-5 David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hallerman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Rambouillet. Upstate New York. Lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> details. No connection with the seller. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Hallerman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Western Massachusetts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/bik/d/chatham-rivendell-rambouillet-touring/7885348135.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2025 at 11:24 AM Josh C < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That seller is quite proud of that little Clem at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $2500... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe this has been listed previously, but there's a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice looking Riv Road bike in NorCal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1508174813750695/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A09962b7c-9926-4f7c-b28e-416cf9ffe061 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 3:44:47 AM UTC-8 Kim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Clem Smith Jr Mustard 52 H - $2,500 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Seattle) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-mustard/7888804001.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 1, 2025 at 9:55:35 AM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone has a way to contact her, please let me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 9:52 AM Brian Turner < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AT serial is definitely Toyo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 1, 2025, at 12:35 PM, Pat McCullar < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at the serial number again, I'm guessing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it isn't SNA10162, as listed in the posting, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably "sn AT0162". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would fit with the normal Atlantis s/n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scheme and also be early enough to have the chain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hanger feature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not important, really, but it was bugging me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 1, 2025 at 9:11:24 AM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat McCullar wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's legit, then the Atlantis is a very good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal, too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Warning: unnecessary pedantic detail> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you look closely at this photo, you can see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there is a chain hanger braze-on on the drive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side chain stay. I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know when that feature was deleted, but it's the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign of a fairly early >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atlantis. My previous 53cm Atlantis (s/n AT0748) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did not have this feature >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I was surprised to find that my current 56cm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atlantis (s/n AT0040) does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 569486689_846530197958053_4003840426476959792_n.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 31, 2025 at 7:01:46 PM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danny wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She sold a 62cm Betty Foy for $600, someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scored a great deal there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1157428312497448/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 7:55 PM dylan green < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried messaging with the seller and it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says "unavailable" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 5:46 PM Pat McCullar < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Though, the front rack does look like one of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 31, 2025 at 5:44:33 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7 Pat McCullar wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is SNA10162 supposed to be the serial >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number? I've had 2 Toyo Atlantii and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serial numbers were both ATXXXX. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, built up by Bruce Gordon? Is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seller trolling us? (Funny, if so) Bruce was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather critical of Rivendell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even before the Atlantis was introduced. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce even had a picnic table outside of his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop in Petaluma that was supported with old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bridgestone frames that had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been welded up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not aware of any relationship between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the two firms. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, in total fairness, the one time I met >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him was pleasant and interesting and I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been glad I went. The curmudgeon was not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 31, 2025 at 4:10:37 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7 Josh C wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For any sizable purchase these days, I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking to see the item on FaceTime, just like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dylan. That way, I at least >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know they own the item they are selling. You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could still lose somehow, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less likely. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 31, 2025 at 5:15:02 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's good to hear...the legit part I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean. I had an issue with a Rambouillet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seller a few months ago. Proved to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be legit, but up until I asked for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facetime, I was convinced it was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 1:55 PM maxcr < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No connection here, but it seems legit to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me: there's an obituary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.yandaandsonfuneralhome.com/obituary/fenton-ramey> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a person with that last name and a wife >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> named Linda who seems to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seller. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It reads: "toured with the Oklahoma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bicycle Society." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck to any potential buyer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 31, 2025 at 4:33:24 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4 Brendan Willard in SF wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The seller has a bunch of bikes and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frames all sized for the same person, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even has their name (Ramey) on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. They're also often in the same garage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is this a sell off of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aging or possibly deceased collector? Or a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen grab/scam of someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else?? Very thorough, if so. I'd love to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 31, 2025 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1:08:02 PM UTC-7 matt miller wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah. I didn't notice the seller's bio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before posting. RUN AWAY! Or drive to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yukon, Oklahoma, and let us know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 31, 2025 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2:42:49 PM UTC-5 [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks sketchy as hell! Proceed with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caution. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2025, at 11:16 AM, dylan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> green <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember this Atlantis from Ebay a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple years ago. I think it was up for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over a year and the owner told me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it sold (in this condition). I'd think a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buyer at the time would have at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least found a rear wheel, and put a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saddle on it. Maybe potential buyer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beware? who knows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 31, 2025 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:01:06 AM UTC-7 matt miller wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Interesting" Atlantis with Moots >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seatpost and one wheel in Oklahoma. Says >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is a 56. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/share/1KpsDQi9h7/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 568209551_776273052074423_7665403411364763039_n.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 4, 2025 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5:22:31 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clem Smith H >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 52cm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> San Rafael, CA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/san-anselmo-rivendell-clem-build/7886309186.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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