George! I was wrong! Kudos to both Franco and George!
Patrick Moore, who is happy to let others ride non-drop bars, and loves his 38 cm (pavement) and 42 cm (dirt road, both at hoods) Maes Parallels, in ABQ, NM. On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 3:05 PM Franco Rinaldi <[email protected]> wrote: > Love the feedback and inspiration in all of these replies. I plan on > leaving my SamH drop barred for all of these reasons. > > Franco Rinaldi > c: 646.403.0661 > > -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message- > > On Dec 22, 2025, at 4:40 PM, Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Speaking of perfect form, I think I posted this before, but *this* is > perfect form: > > <image.png> > > > Patrick Moore, who at 70 can still — thank God — ride for miles in the > hooks, against headwinds in ABQ, NM. > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 2:37 PM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > >> George: I happen to agree with you about drop bars, and narrow ones at >> that, but I think that urging drop bars for all is on this list somewhat >> like spitting into the wind. >> >> I myself couldn't get comfortable for more than 5 miles on any of the >> dozens of non-drop bars I’ve used, nor on many of the “alt” drop bars >> either, but so many riders on this list like Grant’s myriad non-drop bars, >> and me, I think Grant has been around the block enough times, that both >> facts have to count for something in proof of the efficacy of those designs. >> >> Again, not at all for me, but many other people seem to like them a great >> deal, and why not, after all? >> >> Patrick “not non-drop, not wide, neither” Moore, whose dirt road bike has >> 42 cm (at hoods) Maes Parallels because that’s just natural, and who has >> bee cutting 4” off each end of all non-drop bars since 1989. >> >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 1:33 PM George Schick <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You know, I responded to this post once in favor of trying dirt drop >>> bars, but all subsequent discussions went elsewhere. Fine. I can only >>> offer one more piece of advice: Check out this Henry Wildeberry YouTube >>> video of he and Ms. Cools riding to the bicycle expose known as "MADE" in >>> Portland. Play it and carefully watch the sections that show Ms. Cools >>> pedaling along the roads and trails. She has *perfect* knee and leg >>> position at the bottom of her down strokes and she is riding on dirt drop >>> handlebars that allow her to shift back and forth between riding on the >>> drops or hands over the brake levers (accompanied by the excellent "Blue >>> Begonias" music by the Grateful Dead). Plus, her position - that sought >>> after "pyramid" shape between the angle of her back and her forearms. >>> Convince me, please, how any of what your have been bantering back and >>> forth on this thread could get any better than that. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-4WcVbQOfA >>> >>> On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 10:19:08 AM UTC-6 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> like those a lot but sold out :( >>>> >>>> Franco Rinaldi >>>> c: 646.403.0661 <(646)%20403-0661> >>>> >>>> -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message- >>>> >>>> On Dec 22, 2025, at 10:17 AM, Jim in Mpls <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Take a look at the Choco bar. I'm really liking it on my Roaduno and >>>> have been thinking of switching my Roadini over as well. >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9e37a159-624e-4259-b2ee-7b2216bc4496n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9e37a159-624e-4259-b2ee-7b2216bc4496n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/73a20cf0-38ff-494e-b050-ce3e3152586dn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/73a20cf0-38ff-494e-b050-ce3e3152586dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >> services >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >> >> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >> >> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >> > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgvxw4_GYLVR%3DFNxuHRqFTiJrAZonPoTcAKqbfbhaNPFwQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgvxw4_GYLVR%3DFNxuHRqFTiJrAZonPoTcAKqbfbhaNPFwQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/70FA8E2D-005F-4E2C-9E88-33865B84997A%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/70FA8E2D-005F-4E2C-9E88-33865B84997A%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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