Yeah, the tires and wheels are currently being shared between the Susie and Atlantis. I sure do love the Rene Herse 700x55 Fleecer Ridges. That, plus the bar swap may help a bunch. I'm probably just not digging the super upright stance the Billies provide. Another simple change I may try is just throwing on a longer stem to see if that feels a tad more sportive than my current setup. Currently running a 100mm and have a 120mm in the bin. Sweptback seat post already on there.
On Tuesday, January 27, 2026 at 5:56:38 PM UTC+1 Dorothy C wrote: > I don’t care for the Kenda tires. If it were me I would try a pair of the > Poteau Ridge Rene Herse 48mm tires. Even in Endurance Plus casing, the > sturdiest, those would be almost 90g lighter per tire. The Billies have the > most backsweep, maybe try a Choco or the new bar Riv are coming out with > > On Tuesday, January 27, 2026 at 8:00:46 AM UTC-8 Teague wrote: > >> Sure Loscos, Billies, n Boscos work for full off-road, but it's gonna be >> a different ride than with get arounds, wide wavies, etc. If you're looking >> for a different feel, a bar swap is probably the fastest way to make that >> happen. If you don't have any others hanging around, perhaps you can borrow >> susie's bars and try em out on the Atlantis. Will's susie was inspiration >> for mine. Somewhere along the line he wrote about going for lower rise, >> less swept bars to get that "sportier" (probably not the term he used) feel. >> >> Tires totally change the ride too - perhaps those kenda tires are making >> the atlantis feel a little redundant to the susie. >> >> On Tuesday, January 27, 2026 at 8:31:18 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Taylor, regarding the feeling of "sitting on the bike not in it", I've >>> been having the same sort of feeling with my new Charlie Gallop. What may >>> have made the difference is getting a Velo Orange Grand Cru long setback >>> seatpost. I haven't had it out for a ride yet but test sitting in the >>> garage feels like I'm more down "in" the bike. This is with Billie Bars. >>> >>> Somewhere else someone mentioned the Ahearne +Map bars. Maybe take a >>> look at those. >>> >>> At any rate I think it sometimes takes a while to get a bike dialed in. >>> It did with my Clem. And sometimes it's just a serendipitous change that >>> does the trick, as with my Clem when I put some really wide bars on it. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2026, 7:22 AM Drew Fitchette <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Taylor, >>>> >>>> I have had a hard time with Billies except for on my Clem, which had by >>>> far the longest reach of all the bikes I've owned. I switched my Atlantis >>>> to Moth bars to widen my grip which has me leaning a little further >>>> forward. I like them quite a bit more than the Billies for feeling more >>>> "in" the bike, rather than on it. Of all the swept back bars I've tried I >>>> like the Bosco/Tosco/Losco most... but I've only ridden the widest of each >>>> variation. >>>> >>>> I'm interested in the new bars too, and might put those on the Atlantis >>>> and move the Moth bars over to a bigger/longer frame. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, January 27, 2026 at 8:12:44 AM UTC-5 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the ideas so far. I realize this is not a bad problem to >>>>> have. I have a set of fenders to throw on the Homer as it's my >>>>> all-rounder >>>>> and I don't want to shy away from it in the rain. The Susie is definitely >>>>> my mountain bike, and I dig it so much for what it is. Agree with Brian >>>>> that it shouldn't be laden down with racks and such. What I'm probably >>>>> reacting to the most is the cockpit of the Atlantis. The Billies just >>>>> feel >>>>> super chill and cruiser, but I don't really connect with this kind of >>>>> riding. I like to feel connected to the bike and in control. I bet if I >>>>> swapped the Billies out for those new slightly swept-back Riv/Nitto bars >>>>> coming out, or some Wavie bars, or even something more in the Jones Bar >>>>> type of vibe, the bike would feel better to me. Probably the simplest >>>>> thing >>>>> to do is just throw a less chill bar on there to see how she feels, >>>>> though >>>>> there'd then be some overlap with the Susie. I really liked the idea of >>>>> symmetry of the full gamut of bar types: drop, Albastache, flat/riser, >>>>> swept back to cover the full spectrum. I see all the Riv guys going full >>>>> off-road with Loscos, Chocos, Toscos, Billies... Those bars don't seem to >>>>> be lacking in capability for many of you. I wonder what I'm missing? Can >>>>> anyone comment on it feeling like I'm on top of the Atlantis more than in >>>>> the bike with some of my other steeds? >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, January 26, 2026 at 5:40:46 PM UTC+1 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If this were my stable, here's what I would do: >>>>>> >>>>>> Keep the fast bike as-is. Keep the Susie light and nimble as a fun, >>>>>> laid-back trail bike (after all, the Susie is the one Riv that Grant and >>>>>> Co. seemed to put the most weight restrictions on). Give the Homer >>>>>> fenders >>>>>> and a basket. Keep the fatter tires on the Atlantis and have it be more >>>>>> of >>>>>> an all-rounder / all-terrain / gravel / tourer. >>>>>> This way, each bike has it's own niche, but you can still easily pull >>>>>> double-duty with any of the Rivs with just some slight easy >>>>>> modifications >>>>>> on the fly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Brian >>>>>> Lexington KY >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3d24c50a-d898-41eb-bd6e-d20041e68b77n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3d24c50a-d898-41eb-bd6e-d20041e68b77n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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