I'm gonna muddy the waters here a bit. If you want the cushy feel of 650b hetres you don't have to go to the Big Apples (and they DON'T give the feeling of hetres anyway). But the 700c Jack Browns in the lighter weight do. My 700c bike fits Big Apples...eh, kinda heavy, makes it a bit sluggish. The Jack Browns feel a lot like the hetres on my kog. I do find Hetres to be a little bit sluggish, and that the Cypres are fine for dirt roads. Data point, I weigh 170lbs and often carry 20 - 40 lbs of stuff on my daily rides which include poorly maintained dirt roads. And the 650b Cypres feel a lot like the 700c Grand Bois ( Grand Bois = big wood - which is always quite amusing to me as of course we all ride on big wood; I always have to raise the bar a bit; I'll be here all week). Most of the time I'm riding 700c Grand Bois, and they are quite cushy, and important for me, fast.
On Jul 19, 2:29 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: > I think that the alternative makes sense for a 559 wheels conversion but > hardly for a 622 conversion; for one thing, it is a rare 700c frame that > will accept 50 mm, let alone 60 mm tires. > > The value of the alternative for a 559 wheel-designed frame is that 650B > allows you to run narrower, lighter tires while preserving the overall, 26" > diameter of the wheel that, because the frame is designed for it, will best > preserve the frame's designed handling. 559 frames with 24" actual (559X1") > tires handle horribly; Paselas (559X25) are better but not the best; it > isn't until you start getting to a width of 40 mm or so that the frame has > the chance to exhibit its best handling. > > Upshot: if you are speaking of a 700c frame, forget Big Apples, unless it's > a 29er frame. If a 26er frame, the BAs will roll nicely, handling will be > fine, and you can take on any surface that is not wet. If you want lighter, > faster tires, go for 650B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
