Jamison,
It is good of you to share these difficult issues with which you are
dealing.  I am desperately searching for a support group for owners of
match-built Riv Roads AND maxway-built, green Sams with non-spotted forks.
David

jamison brosseau wrote:
its funny those little differences.  In fact My AHH was delivered to
me by Vivian, my at home ups driver, as was my atlantis, and my
bombadil i received at work, so keith my at work ups driver delivered
that bike.  Keith is Vivians immediate boss, and all around he is a
better driver than vivian, i suppose that is why he is the shift
leader.
anyway, seeing as how keith is better than vivian it makes sense that
the bombadil is a better bike, i just enjoy it more knowing it was in
the caring hands of keith, while the ahh and atlantis both seem
tainted to me as they were temporarily cared for by Vivian.  in two
seconds im going to get on my ahh and ride to work,  i dread the
moment i have to swing my leg over a bike delivered by an inferior ups
driver, i mean i could have just had it delivered to work, and then
maybe i would have enjoyed it some.  i guess im just a self loather.
what should i do, maybe i should stop concentrating on the minute
differences and just ride my bike they are all rivendells and are
supposed to have excellent handling attention to detail and a great
ride.  or perhaps i should further differentiate my bikes from those
around me, convincing myself of their superiority or in the vivian's
bikes cases inferiority.  perhaps i can come up with some syllogisms
(sp)

bikes made in wisconsin are superior to bikes made in japan
my bikes are made in wisconsin
my bikes are superor

sorry vivian,
jamison brosseau
On Sep 2, 10:06 pm, Rene Sterental <[email protected]> wrote:
I will agree that the diagonal tube has always "puzzled" me and I didn't
like the fact that it wasn't going all the way to the rear dropouts. On
Monday, when I went to pick up the Betty I saw the unpainted prototype up
close with wheels on. It has more clearance than the Bombadil so the Big
Apples 2.3 didn't seem like they were too close to the seat stays. I can't
say that I really like it, but I can't say that I really dislike it either.

With the Bombadil I had no trouble getting used to the double top tubes and
found them really handy to lift the bike into/out of the train. I imagine
the diagonal tube can help in the same manner.

I don't really like the gray color either, I somehow think that the
Rivendells shine in the more pastel colors. I am blown away by the Waterford
AHH blue and the Waterford Atlantis green. I was able to compare side by
side on the train a Toyo Atlantis against mine, and while not as different
as the AHH blue, the Waterford is still more "creamy" and has the same
feeling of magic depth that the Waterford blue has for me. The gray
definitely doesn't do it for me. :-)

I think that with my current stable I'm set for a very long time (Homer,
Altantis & Betty) so I'll be watching the evolution of the Rivendell frames
for the time being.

One thing is for sure... no one can stay indifferent to the Rivendell bikes!

René


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