Well, this thread has produced some good information/history/opinion.

Personally, I've decided that I will look into the B17 Select when I next need a saddle (maybe not 'til next year). I weigh around 245; the only issue I might have with my current B17 Special (which has always been comfortable, even straight from the box and basically slapped on in waning patience as my newly built-up Hillborne demanded riding; it's even more comfy now that I've tweaked angle and position to perfection; thank you Hillborne seat tube angle! thank you Nitto S83 adjustability!) is that I've needed to tension it more than I'd like to keep the creaky-squeaky sounds at bay. As of now, this need for tensioning is reducing. But still I wonder how long it'll be before the need for punching/lacing arrives, to be followed quickly by gnashing/rending (teeth and garments, respectively) and tossing out of the saddle.

If the B17 "Select" proves to be simply a more robust B17 Special, then that's the saddle I've always wanted. And I'll be checking the web and particularly this list for info on the "Select" B17's arrival. In the meantime, the B17 Special is serving quite nicely.

(The only reason I chose the B17 Special over the standard B17 was that where and when I bought the saddle, the difference in price was like $15 or something and, with my dying B68, even in the throes of its last weeks, the only truly uncomfortable bits are the tubular rivets, which sometimes dig into my butt in a manner most unhappy-making. I'm hopeful that the more broad copper rivets will stay in place longer and/or be more gentle on my posterior when the time of their unsettling eventually comes.)

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
----- Original Message ----- From: "Montclair BobbyB" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:42 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?


It's nice to know that the most comfortable Brooks saddle may very
well be the least expensive.  Then again, I've never ridden a Swift or
B17 Titanium... but I'm OK with that..

Peace,
BB

On Sep 17, 11:37 am, Tim McNamara <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:06 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:

> The Colt is already available. Initial impressions I have heard are
> that the saddle is very hard and not terribly comfortable. Apparently
> it is meant to be a race type saddle for the heavier rider.

I have one of the old Colts that I bout 10 years ago, when it looked
like Brooks was going away forever. I think I paid $25 for it,
discovered it in a bike shop in Cannon Falls MN into which my wife
and I stopped randomly. I've never ridden it, it's on one of my
wife's bikes. She seems to do OK with it although she prefers the
Pro S saddles on her other bikes. It's narrow, about like a Pro or a
B.17N. The leather is thick like the old Pros were; it would take
some break-in but would end up being an old friend like my 34 year
old Pro on my Riv (which I bout just after graduating from high
school and it took about 2 years to fully break in. It is the most
comfortable saddle I have ever ridden).

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