Well, as it turns out, I use the Nitto saddlebag grip. So theoretically a lack of loops wouldn't matter. Of course, there may come a time when i'd rather just use loops (for simplicity, for looks, for any-reason-except-to-save-weight :)) So it's definitely something to consider.
Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Sep 15, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Earl Grey <[email protected]> wrote: > I had a b17, b17 special, and a team pro. Replaced the team pro with > another b17s. Comfort difference was slight, and I believe mostly due > to lack of break-in due to thicker leather, but the pro didn't have > saddle bag loops. Looks like some do and some don't > (see wallbike.com photos). Just something to be aware of. > > Gernot > > On Sep 14, 8:15 pm, Montclair BobbyB <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Ah yes, the B68... I was skeptical at first, but I love this seat. I >> commuted this morning on an old chrome Mongoose with a B68... it felt >> GREAT... In fact it's my favorite short-distance saddle. On longer >> rides it's a bit wide for my liking. >> >> I had a gorgeous brown Flyer Special which I could (and often did) >> stare at all day long. This is based on the B17, but even though it >> was sprung it wasn't nearly as comfortable as my standard B17. >> Perhaps the it was thicker leather? I don't know, I've toiled over >> this for years. Same goes for my B17 Special. It's awesome looking >> and still very comfortable, but not quite as plush as the good ol' >> honey B17... And I've been riding a standard B17 on my mountain bike >> now for years, and will NEVER go back. In fact I'll soon be heading >> out to Colorado for a few days of mountain biking... I will likely >> rent a bike, but regardless I'll take along a B17 for sure! >> >> BB >> >> On Sep 12, 3:28 am, "Rene Valbuena" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I also prefer the B17 over the Pro on bikes with handlebar on level or lower >>> than the saddle. The Pro model seems to be stiffer perhaps not because it >>> has thicker leather but because of its narrower design. I don't have a >>> Swallow but I think the reason it is more pleasant on the butt is that it is >>> longer than the Pro and B17. >> >>> On B17s, I noticed that the standard model has a little more flex or bounce >>> that I find more pleasant. But I cannot resist the allure of the bigger >>> copper rivets on the champion special model. So I have both the standard and >>> the champion special. >> >>> But on bikes with handlebar which make you more upright riding, I like the >>> aged special model B68. >> >>> -- Rene >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Noel >>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:20 PM >>> To: RBW Owners Bunch >>> Subject: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom? >> >>> I'm surprised to see the comments to the effect that the Pro is >>> "flatter" than the B17. I have a couple of each and find them all to >>> have that distinct "hammock" shape. The key differences, as far as I >>> can tell, are that the Pro is a narrower at the back and is made of >>> thicker leather. (I have one Pro that is at least 15 years old. I >>> periodically mount it on a bike and use it for a few hundred miles, >>> then take it off again, because I just can't get it to break in. I >>> figure it's got at least 3000 miles on it at this point, plus several >>> different (increasingly radical) attempts at softening it. It's still >>> hard as a rock and looks/feels exactly like it did out of the box.) >> >>> Overall, I just haven't had great success with Brooks no matter what I >>> do, for exactly the reasons outlined by James: if I get the rear >>> section level enough so that I'm not sliding onto the nose, the nose >>> is angled so steeply up that it digs into me. Lowering the nose just >>> causes the rear section to angle downward, sliding me back onto the >>> nose. Arg. Even with a two-bolt post, there is no happy medium. >> >>> For some reason, though, the Velo-Orange saddles don't do that to me, >>> even though they have the "hammock" shape too. Go figure. It's just >>> too bad the V/O saddles aren't quite as nicely put together as the >>> Brooks... >> >>> Noel >>> Orange County, Ca. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - >> >>> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
