I've gotten feedback from a few who've used them. Both said they were
far better in stiffness and modulation than either the ShimaNo or the
Tektros.  I'm about ready to buy a pair for my new-to-me Ram. The only
down side I've heard is that the Tektro's open wider. With a Tektro
lever with the QR button they will barely clear a Jack Brown was what
I heard. M Racers open wider.  The Pauls look incredible but I wanted
to stay with sidepulls on this bike ( got Paul braze-on's on the
Randonneuse)

~Mike~

On Sep 27, 8:24 pm, James Valiensi <valie...@mac.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I've had the Paul's Racers and now the Crus. The Crus stop better and don't 
> squeal, at least that has been my experience.
> I don't see why the Crus would not be as durable as the Paul's.
> Both brakes are CNC machined from aluminum plate. They are not forged or 
> castTime will tell though, but the Crus are much cheaper.
> Cheers!
> On Sep 27, 2010, at 6:15 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >>  I'd take that to mean VO believes them to be better  than Silvers and 
> >> Paul's.  Can anyone confirm or deny this claim?
>
> > Paul Racers have been around for years, have a very loyal following,
> > and stop bikes as well as any rim brake made.  The Crus are brand new
> > to the market, dual pivot not center pull, not as robust as the Pauls,
> > and in my opinion anyway (and having only seen the Crus on line),
> > nowhere near as good looking.
>
> > Under the circumstances I have not a clue how anyone can confirm VO's
> > puffery. Certainly it is impossible to say the Crus will be as durable
> > as the Pauls. The best one can say is that it would be an amazing
> > feat, indeed, if the Crus are better than Paul.
>
> > To put things in perspective, when VO was selling custom made
> > Randonnuers instead of the stock frames (which it is dropping in any
> > event) it offered Paul's at a discount with the frame purchase.  I
> > seem to recall the VO text saying Paul's were the best brakes out
> > there.
>
> > On Sep 27, 5:35 pm, Adam Kimball <adamfkimb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi,
>
> >> In my search for the best brakes, I've been thinking about trying the
> >> Velo Orange Grand Cru brakes.  In their marketing copy they mention
> >> that the brakes are the best of "every other" long-reach brake caliper
> >> they have tried.  I'd take that to mean VO believes them to be better
> >> than Silvers and Paul's.  Can anyone confirm or deny this claim?
> >> Certainly nice looking brakes..
>
> >> -Adam
>
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