Everyone, Thanks for the discussion. This has been incredibly helpful to me. I've never owned a bike with center-pull brakes of any type, so this is my first time working with them. I will say that as a newbie (but a quick-learning one) - my Paul Racer brakes have given me a lot of headaches. I don't like the modulation of the brakes - I assume that I will become used to it at some point, but right now they feel incredibly squishy to my hands. Likewise, there are so many variables to get right. I've spent no less than 10 hours setting up these brakes (!) and right now I'm still pretty unhappy. Guess I need to get to work on them again. They've got to do a better job stopping me than they are doing now.. I just need to figure it out.
One thing I really don't understand is that variables the spring tension effects? This is one area where I have not experimented very much and I'm hopeful that I can squeeze some more performance out of the brakes (and no, the pun was not intentional ;) -Adam On Sep 28, 7:03 am, James Valiensi <valie...@mac.com> wrote: > Joel, > As I wrote it was my experience, yours may be different. > Cheers! > On Sep 28, 2010, at 5:39 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > > > >> The Crus stop better and don't squeal, at least that has been my > >> experience. > > > I would be curious to see how you had the Pauls set up. With the > > spring adjustment properly set and the pads toed in at the optimal > > angle Pauls stopping power is often superior to the bike's ability to > > tolerate. If you experienced squealing it suggests your set up is not > > correct. > > >> The Crus stop better and don't squeal, at least that has been my > >> experience. > > > The caliper itself is only part of the brake. The spring is the > > critical component. I am no engineer, but the Paul Racer spring > > placement is very good and in my opinion will stop better than dual > > pivot. > > > On Sep 27, 10:24 pm, James Valiensi <valie...@mac.com> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I've had the Paul's Racers and now the Crus. The Crus stop better and > >> don't squeal, at least that has been my experience. > >> I don't see why the Crus would not be as durable as the Paul's. > >> Both brakes are CNC machined from aluminum plate. They are not forged or > >> cast. > >> Time will The Crus stop better and don't squeal, at least that has been my > >> experience. > > tell though, but the Crus are much cheaper. > >> Cheers! > >> On Sep 27, 2010, at 6:15 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > >>>> I'd take that to mean VO believes them to be better than Silvers and > >>>> Paul's. Can anyone confirm or deny this claim? > > >>> Paul Racers have been around for years, have a very loyal following, > >>> and stop bikes as well as any rim brake made. The Crus are brand new > >>> to the market, dual pivot not center pull, not as robust as the Pauls, > >>> and in my opinion anyway (and having only seen the Crus on line), > >>> nowhere near as good looking. > > >>> Under the circumstances I have not a clue how anyone can confirm VO's > >>> puffery. Certainly it is impossible to say the Crus will be as durable > >>> as the Pauls. The best one can say is that it would be an amazing > >>> feat, indeed, if the Crus are better than Paul. > > >>> To put things in perspective, when VO was selling custom made > >>> Randonnuers instead of the stock frames (which it is dropping in any > >>> event) it offered Paul's at a discount with the frame purchase. I > >>> seem to recall the VO text saying Paul's were the best brakes out > >>> there. > > >>> On Sep 27, 5:35 pm, Adam Kimball <adamfkimb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> In my search for the best brakes, I've been thinking about trying the > >>>> Velo Orange Grand Cru brakes. In their marketing copy they mention > >>>> that the brakes are the best of "every other" long-reach brake caliper > >>>> they have tried. I'd take that to mean VO believes them to be better > >>>> than Silvers and Paul's. Can anyone confirm or deny this claim? > >>>> Certainly nice looking brakes.. > > >>>> -Adam > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >> James Valiensi, PE > >> Northridge, CA > >> H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > James Valiensi, PE > Northridge, CA > H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
