Get a good u-lock, I might use a too-heavy one at night (new york krypto) but prefer knowing at least the frame will be there for me while I'm inside a concert or otherwise. Use a good locking skewer for the other unlocked wheel (you can save money by splitting it up across a couple bikes, and just locking different wheels). Leave as little room as possible for squeezing a pump into the ulock. My messenger buddy uses skewers on both, a the smallest possible ulock--barely clears his frame and a parking meter. That's a good way to go, too, but harder sometimes with racked bicycles.
At this point, the worst that could happen is theft of your seat. I throw a plastic bag over mine during the night, and will do the same with a seatbag. Seems to do the trick well enough, though of course you can get particularly unlucky--in any town. I used to do the auxilary cable technique to secure my junk, until I saw somebody saw through one with a serrated knife in about 30 seconds. Since then, I just keep it all dirty and park where there are eyes on the street. I've had plenty of lights stolen, but just the cheap kind (well, 30 dollars isn't super-cheap, but it isn't a phil hub). Knock on wood, never a bicycle. ~erik On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM, cyclotourist <[email protected]>wrote: > Interesting and excellent point! Particularly a concern in a high theft > area. I don't have that problem, at least not hugely... > > > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey David. Hmmm, I've known about the Sheldon locking strategy and the >> only thing that concerns me is someone who doesn't know much about >> bikes coming by and undoing my quick releases and trying to remove the >> frame and finding out it can't be done. Then, just dropping the frame >> to the pavement. I'm worried that the person might damage the frame/ >> wheel when tugging or when ditching the attempt. I don't know if this >> has every happened to anyone in the real world, though. >> >> Best, >> Lee >> >> On Nov 11, 9:18 am, cyclotourist <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Lee, what are your thoughts on the seat tube lock point vs. rear wheel >> lock >> > point (aka Sheldon technique< >> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html>)? >> > >> > I typically do the Sheldon, but have always wondered if it's good >> enough... >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Just to follow-up, I took some pics of my locked up QB outside of my >> > > lab. Note that my workplace is secluded, remote, and well-trafficked >> > > by people, and it's on a pretty secluded campus with hundreds of >> > > barely locked bikes everywhere. So, my work lock and cable are less >> > > beefy than their counterparts at home, which I use when running around >> > > San Francisco. >> > >> > > The pics: >> > >http://tinyurl.com/286ywhb >> > >http://tinyurl.com/2bymylj >> > >> > > Best, >> > > Lee >> > >> > > On Nov 10, 11:39 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Hi Jose. I live in San Francisco and frequent the East and South Bay >> > > > areas regularly. Here's my two cents: Definitely do not rely on a >> > > > cable lock in the Bay Area. Of course, thieves will target high-end >> > > > bikes and components, but I think even more so, they target weak >> > > > locks--cable locks in particular. Ironically, in this way, cable >> locks >> > > > act as an attractant in my opinion, regardless of the bike. On any >> > > > given weekend morning I can walk the streets near my apartment and >> > > > find part of a cable lock on the sidewalk or in the gutter. >> > >> > > > I ride my Quickbeam as my daily bike, and I do lock it up outside >> > > > during the work day, as well as out in the city during the weekend >> and >> > > > nights. It's outfitted with a B-17 Special and either a Phil hub or >> > > > Shimano dynamo hub front wheel. In the latter case, I'll also have a >> > > > B&M Cyo mounted to a small front rack. And, I usually have a tool >> > > > pouch hung from the saddle and a SuperFlash mounted on the seat >> stay. >> > > > My locking solution is a heavy cable through both wheels and the >> > > > saddle rails, which is then locked along with the frame to a bike >> rack >> > > > with a Kryptonite u-lock. I think it's the Evolution. I usually take >> > > > my tool pouch if it's night. During the day, depending on the area, >> I >> > > > may leave it on my bike. I always leave the SuperFlash and Cyo on my >> > > > bike regardless of time or place. >> > >> > > > The only thing I feel really secure about this set-up is the frame >> and >> > > > u-lock situation. I take my chances with the heavy cable, hoping >> that >> > > > a bike thief won't try to get through that just to get my Brooks or >> a >> > > > Phil hub. One thing that works in my favor is the number of nicely >> > > > accessorized bikes that have become so popular in the city right >> now. >> > > > Go to any bar, coffee shop, or yoga studio in the Mission and you'll >> > > > have your pick of non-secured Brooks saddles and Phil wheels. But, >> > > > this is no real security solution, obviously. >> > >> > > > I guess this is a long-winded way of saying that your instincts are >> > > > right, a cable-lock-only approach is likely to be a problem. I don't >> > > > think you have to cover up the logo, but lock down with a u-lock >> > > > anything you don't won't to risk being taken, and remove any item >> you >> > > > positively don't want to be stolen. Other than that, you weigh the >> > > > risks and take your chances. Of course, that advice probably fits >> most >> > > > urban areas. For this one, I think after a month or two of being out >> > > > and about, you'll find your comfort zone in the areas you frequent. >> > >> > > > Good luck! >> > > > Lee >> > >> > > > On Nov 10, 11:00 pm, jose <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > Hi All. I just moved to Oakland (Rockridge) from Houston and I'm >> > > > > curious what peoples opinions are parking your Rivs here are. >> > >> > > > > In Houston, I felt fairly comfortable with locking up my Atlantis >> with >> > > > > bags/lights/brooks onboard with just a cable lock during the day. >> No >> > > > > one there pays too much attention to an old looking slow bike with >> a >> > > > > bunch of crap on it (ha!). >> > >> > > > > Here I see only beater-bikes with no bags/lights/brooks parked on >> the >> > > > > street. >> > >> > > > > So I'm wondering how secure I should go. Never leave lights on >> the >> > > > > bike? Cover up the Rivendell logos? Get one of those locking seat >> > > > > post clamp things? I realize that no bike on the street is ever >> safe, >> > > > > but I'd like get a sense of what the probability of getting my >> stuff >> > > > > jacked here is. >> > >> > > > > Oh, and I'm asking for during the day coffee and errand type >> trips. >> > > > > For BART parking and late-night pub crawls I just bought a $50 >> > > > > craigslist special, but I would really like to be on my Atlantis >> as >> > > > > much as I can be. >> > >> > > > > Thanks in advance, >> > > > > -- J. >> > >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > > To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > [email protected]<rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected]> >> <rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected]<rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected]> >> > >> > > . >> > > For more options, visit this group at >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > David >> > Redlands, CA >> > >> > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would >> > probably benefit more from >> > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > probably benefit more from > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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