I'd say when it doesn't fit under a fender, or becomes so heavy that
acceleration and climbing are seriously affected. Btw, not all wide
tires are low rolling resistance. I stay away from the heavy duty
Marathons as they do feel a bit leaden to me and do reduce my riding
enjoyment. Also, ideal tire width depends a lot on road condition and
rider+bike+luggage weight. For my 175 lbs self with sub 30 lbs bike
and luggage, slick 50mm tires are probably overkill for even bad dirt
roads, but might still be worth it for combining road riding with
rocky single track. But 50mm might be just right for a 250 lbs rider
with 70 lbs bike+luggage on chip seal.

My 1990 Fisher Sphinx monstercross/countrybike came with 700C/38mm
Panaracer small block knobbies. These were not great for the road, and
were replaced with a long series of 28mm Continentals for road riding,
and 45mm Panaracer Smokes for off-roading. The idea of mixed surface
riding hadn't occurred to me yet.

However, here in Thailand mixed surface riding makes the most sense
due to the plethora of connecting dirt roads. I first went to Vittoria
32s (about 31mm actual), then Jack Brown Greens (34mm actual) when I
got my Hillborne, then Pasela 35s (37 actual), and now Kenda
Kwickroller EZ Ride 40s (worst name ever, though accurate; 39mm
actual). I think I am getting close to the point of diminishing
returns, but don't think I am there yet. Dirt road performance has
increased noticeably with each increase, while road performance seems
similar. (These are all low rolling resistance tires; most wider tires
in 700C appear to be heavier duty/higher resistance. The Kendas came
in 44mm but were discontinued before I could try them).

The Jack Browns do accelerate more quickly, but that doesn't really
have an effect on ride enjoyment. However, the Kendas don't quite fit
under the fenders I bought for the Jack Browns, so I just switched
back to the Paselas to put the fenders back on (winter is dry season
here, so they aren't absolutely necessary). The Kendas will go to the
Fisher which has wider fenders.

I am seriously contemplating the purchase of a 650B bike so I can run
Hetres (42mm), which seem like the ideal tire to me: cushy, low
rolling resistance, wide, light (tried them on a friend's bike). Also
wouldn't mind trying some Big Apple Lightskins, but am worried that
they are still too overbuilt for me, like most Schwalbes (I rarely get
flats even on Jack Brown Greens at 35 psi on dirt).

Cheers,

Gernot


On Jan 28, 11:30 am, Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> Much is said about Rivs taking big tires, those advanced, low rolling
> resistance, low pressure tires that absorb shocks, stop flats, survive
> long tours across the tundra, and eliminate potentially hazardous
> resonances in areas of lipid storage.  But when do you get too much of
> a good thing and your king of the road turns into a beach cruiser?
> Aside from Riv gatherings where riders compare tire widths, when is
> bigger not better?

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