5 lbs means very little from my experience.   So the one built as a commuter .. 
Same tires wheels geometry bars handlebar height?

Add 5 lbs in water bottle on go fast and doubt you'll notice much.

But if all you're interested in is speed have fun.   A 2 to 3 mph average speed 
difference for me is nothing.

So what Rivendell did you build to 17ish pounds?

Kelly

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On Feb 15, 2011, at 2:41 PM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:

> I just got back from a nice if brief-ish 1 hour ride on the '99 Riv
> gofast, newly equipped with pretty Phil front hub (I have decided not
> to replace the computer -- just yet, anyway, but I guesstimate that I
> covered, easily, 23 miles over rolling, mostly suburban terrain).
> Anyway, I deliberately went out of my way to climb some steepish, 1/2
> mile long hills, mostly standing in the 75" gear, and blow me down, if
> I sped up those hills like ... like .... like ... Oh! Like Bartali,
> shifting into a *higher* gear at the bottom of a steep climb, turning
> with a sneer and glare at his competition, and leaving them in his
> dust. Sortof.
> 
> Anyway, the difference between this gofast that, now, without a
> computer, weighs a featherlite 17 3/4 lb, and the almost identical but
> built as a commuter '03, is about 5 lb, and I certainly can tell the
> difference on the hills.
> 
> Just so you know.
> 
> -- 
> Patrick Moore
> Albuquerque, NM
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> Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected]
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