I have Shimano Ultegra bar end shifters on a bike of mine, and in my
opinion they work splendidly. I've never had any mechanical problem
with them in two years, they're made in Japan (I think) and I don't
know of any plasticy vulnerabilities. They are also $35 cheaper than
the Silvers, so I'm wondering why/if people think the Silvers are far
superior?

I was going to get the SIlvers when I was setting this bike up, but
the price tag was a bit hefty compared to the Shimanos. ANybody got an
argument as to why Silvers are worth it?

On Mar 6, 2:05 pm, charlie <[email protected]> wrote:
> Its okay Grant.......I'd say most of us are sensible enough to realize
> the insignificance and accept the commonly available  substitute born
> of Yankee ingenuity.
>
> On Mar 6, 10:30 am, grant <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Nobody should be horrified, shocked, or even disappointed that we
> > "spec'd a part with fragile plastic." There's more to it than that.
> > We don't get lab results or long-term test results for every part on
> > every component we use. There's a certain amount of faith involved, or
> > else you can't move. In this case, the same sources were used for the
> > Silver washers as were used for the SunTour Sprint washers, and I've
> > had them last 5 years. "Failure" means they crack or a chunk falls
> > out, but they are failsafe----meaning safe when they've failed. We
> > don't use plastic forks (except for eating with sometimes), but a
> > plastic washer now and then....it's not horrid.
> > Two years ago we offered a 3-piece metal and plastic mix of washers
> > you could get at a hardware store. We provided them free for the
> > asking. Beyond that, we told the maker Hey Please Do Better, and
> > before we OK'd the "improved" part, we hung it and an old one out in
> > the sun, zip-tied to a bike rack where it could get sunbaked badly.
> > Then we tried to mash both. The old cracked, the new didn't, and those
> > are the ones we got now.
>
> > Grant "this is as defensive as I get, and sorry 'bout it" Petersen
>
> > On Mar 5, 2:23 pm, Justin August <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Took out the Bleriot with Hetres for a spin and while hanging out
> > > reading a book it fell over and now one of my compression washers is
> > > cracked. Annoying, can't believe Riv specced a part with fragile
> > > plastic, etc….
>
> > > My question: Do I wait for VO to get more in stock or can I use
> > > something else? Can I use a leather washer instead of a compression
> > > washer?
>
> > > Or am I boned?
>
> > > Pics of the Bleriot: (ignore my front derailler cable 
> > > fray)http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinaugust/5500751630/in/set-721576245...

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