On Jun 13, 4:16 pm, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 12:22 -0700, Minh wrote:
>
> > In this particular case i think the price overall is too high.  if a
> > 'new' ram frame+fork is in the 1200-1400 range (i'm being generous),
> > are there another 12-1400 worth of parts there?
>
> How's that possible?  The equivalent current production Riv bike is the
> Hilsen, and it's $2000.  Even the Hillborne is $1500, and new ones have
> those gagamaggot double showstopper top tubes.

But the Ram was discontinued before $2k became the 'norm' price for
the non-Taiwan frames....   I think its last price was about $1600,
before it ceased.    Yeah, I agree, the AHH or the Ram is now a $2k
bike; but, I don't think you can't fairly base a NOS Ram price against
the current new price of the others...  IMHO, FWIW...

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